TequilaMockingbird,
TequilaMockingbird avatar

I mean, I think "those people" believe it's the billionaire pharma companies lying to them, not the individual researchers. And they're lying to everyone, including the doctors and public health officials. Not that I agree - that would be difficult to cover up & someone would surely whistleblow. But it does make more sense if you look at the brainwashing in that light.

IWantToFuckSpez,

And their savior is Agent Orange

TruthAintEasy,
TruthAintEasy avatar

Just imagine a completely average guy, middle of the road, not too smart, not just dumb, a perfect example of average intelligence.... 4 billion of us are dumber than that

DontMakeMoreBabies,

Idiocracy was prophecy.

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

they're proud and stupid and they like to be lied to

tygerprints,

Thank you, Augie. This needed to be said. I've often wondered why we glamorize military people and give them all kinds of regard, but we don't give a shit about the people who really do the work behind the scenes, we don't think about the health professionals who toil long hours or the even lesser seen people in healthcare billing who (believe me) toil tirelessly to make sure our insurances pay what they should and all the teachers and assistants who put in huge long hours.

There are more kinds of heroes out there than just military ones, or political ones. People who never get noticed but deserve to be.

psycho_driver,

I think some people assume that the smarter a person is the more money they will have, because they have bent all of their intellect toward gaining more wealth. Therefore, in their eyes, billionaires are all uber geniuses (PS fuck autocorrect for trying to tell me uber has to be capitalized, it’s a fucking word foremost, not a company).

They do not understand that money is not the primary motivator for a lot of people. Particularly a lot of very smart people.

Also, the one billionaire I’ve known quasi-personally (worked for him and spent some time around him) was a third generation rich kid who wasn’t particularly evil at heart but also not particularly bright.

antlion,
@antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s the complete opposite. The only trait that billionaires have in common is exploitation of people. There is no way to legitimately earn a billion dollars - you must take it. From your employees, from people you scammed, from exploited labor. Being a billionaire only proves that you were a dick who put yourself above everything else.

FiniteBanjo,

The truly sad part is that acknowledging the vast majority of human beings, likely the self included, are mentally flawed to this extent does not make it any easier. It just makes you even more angry. There is no solution or fix for widespread human inadequacy.

Zacryon,

There are those who combine both. Or have you forgotten about those who think Bill Gates put microchips into vaccines in order to control people?

PhlubbaDubba,

Flyover country has a deep resentment of the fact that there are people that know more about shit than you can learn by going to church every Sunday, and this resentment plays out by them rebelling against any course of action recommended by said people who trigger their intellectual inferiority complex

GrymEdm, (edited )

And not just a few of those professionals - almost all of them. Apparently over 99% of these people devoted their lives to researching and administering healthcare at great financial and time expense, then decided to hurt people instead. But they’re only murderous and immoral sometimes - most of the people who say they distrust physicians still want surgeries, help with pain, to be taken to the hospital in emergencies etc. It’s such a contradictory mentality.

cogman, (edited )

It’s the power of propaganda. These people didn’t get to this position naturally, they got there because of the billionaire funded propagandists undermining trust in the experts because they are saying “climate change is a huge problem, we need to regulate these oil companies” and “hey, we need to miss out on profits and quarantine for the public good”.

Ever wonder why conservatives hate the EPA? A government agency that should be the least controversial around? Yeah, it’s because billionaires can make more money dumping toxic waste into the public water supply than responsible disposal. So attack the agency preventing that as being too liberal.

The Koch’s, Murdock, she the Mercers have fucked over multiple nations.

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Except medical gaslighting is a very real thing. Look it up.

WarmSoda,

dO yOUr owN ReSEarcH

Bonesince1997,

We just went through COVID, and what OP posted speaks to me more than your empty message. Why don’t you fill us in, and with something on the level of COVID disinformation?

SayJess, (edited )
@SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I obviously cannot speak for OP, but I think they are referencing how women and people of color have historically had their concerns discounted by the medical field. Women were hysterics, black and brown people did not feel pain like white men do. That kind of bologna. Things are getting better, but these sorts of problems still exist today.

Bonesince1997,

I hear you with these examples. These were even some of the reasons given why some people were hesitant to take up vaccination for covid. So, yes, these things do exist, but I think the original message in this post speaks to me more. I have to image, too, it’s truer than the reverse these days, especially after having just witnessed the fiasco surrounding covid prevention and treatment.

I appreciate you supplying these examples. I had heard of them before, but did not link them to this other person’s post. Thank you.

SayJess,
@SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No worries, I like good discourse on here :-)

800XL,

Hey why don’t you explain it to us instead. I’m excited to hear this fanciful tale of brutish rogues, magic pixie dust and thoughts and prayers

PhlubbaDubba,

Women being told to stop complaining about things that are best treated via uterectomy because doctors were taught by the old boys club to just assume its them trying to get out of ever having kids is not the same thing as you being told you’re an idiot for eating horse dewormer instead of just getting the fucking jab already.

TheEntity,

them trying to get out of ever having kids

As if it was a bad thing. Or the doctor's decision for that matter. If they don't want to have kids, it's well within their right to keep it this way.

catch22,
Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Since y’all can’t manage a simple google search, here you go. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8115954/

CommanderCloon,

I think I can say that we all agree with what you wrote, it’s just not a valid response to the post which is not related to the medical mistreatment that women and POCs can experience

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

That does not justify the wholesale rejection of all medical experts whenever they don't like what they hear. It falls squarely along party lines. That is indicative of a huge problem.

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