Also this resource might be of help: skepticalscience.com/argument.phpThey collect, categorize and quantify the most popular denials, and answer them with science. The answers are available in different detail levels and languages.
I can’t thank you enough for this. I really appreciate that you took time out of your day to help direct me to useful resources he may actually take seriously.
Climate change deniers: “Now hold on just a second!!! According to your own “scientists,” the hottest the earth ever got was 3,600° during the collision event that formed the moon! Fake news!!!”
I've unfortunately reached the point of "Yup. I'm not surprised" with little other emotion. I can't do anything about it. I eat red meat once a week, live in a city so I don't drive and work from home. I don't know what else I can do but I do feel exasperated. Like, how can no one who holds the power to change, care? If they don't, how can I care anymore?
It’s not really a average individual problem. It’s a corporate issue. If you tried you probably couldn’t pollute in your life what some companies do in a week.
Not that it’s not good to try to do what you can, but we need to legislate this issue.
So… this isn’t to get you down or to be a contrarian, but I want to ask honestly what you’re doing to get the attention of those who hold the power to care?
Edit: in other words I don’t wanna sound like a jackass because I know you’re doing more than most, it seems.
If they aren't paying attention to the main stream news which now is no longer pretending climate change isn't happening, and is saying it outright is responsible, then I doubt they'll pay attention to little old me.
Corporate democrats aren’t going to make the sacrifices needed to stave off the worst of climate change, they have reelections to worry about.
We’d need to roll back so many modern comforts in order to actually make progress in making sure we don’t destroy the planet and no one is lining up to be the boogie man who takes AC away from millions.
I hate to say it, but most people will only care when climate change personally affects them, just like COVID. Until then it’s heads in the sand all around.
lol for real? Just look at the 2016 and 2020 elections. our two party system will never allow for far left politicians to be elected. The DNC will ensure that only those who are beholden to their corporate overlords get on the ballot.
The biggest problem is that even if far left politicians get elected locally, it’ll be years before they get into positions where can enact the changes we actually need to stave off the worst effects of the climate catastrophe.
By that point it’ll have been too late for a long, long time. We need people who will act now and they don’t exist.
I wish news would stop saying the broad term human activity and more accurately say corporate activity.
Yes, the general population contributes to climate change, but the real polluters are the big companies manufacturing things, big oil, etc. They don't care about what they're doing and lobby govt's to put the blame on the citizens.
Ah yes those powerless companies that have simply no choice but to destroy our biosphere.
It’s not like they can use the money that they’re currently using to lobby against environmental regulation and oversight for heavier oversight, regulations and gasppenalties instead… Yes it’s literally impossible to take a principled stance at the expense of literally any amount of profit. Besides, who needs clean air and livable temperatures anyway?
No it must be the consumer who must wade through the sea of greenwashing and propaganda spread by companies who have no problem outright lying about their carbon emissions to everyone’s faces. Because it’s just so easy for everyone to know the complete supply chain of every product they buy. Simple really.
Edit: After looking through your comment history I can’t help but think what you said was meant as more of a call to action for people rather than stepping to bat for multinationals as if they are helpless victims with no agency. Apologies if my comment came across as mean spirited I’ve just been on edge recently due to certain undisclosed life events. I’ll keep my base comment as is for archival though.
100 companies have contributed over 70% of greenhouse gas emissions. Only 100.
Do you really think that an average joe can make a difference? The blame doesn't lay on ordinary people. Us polluting is a byproduct of corporations polluting.
Yes i do because i’m one of many. Maybe i can’t convince you to make a difference but i’m not going to just say ‘oh well, nothing can be done’. Vote with your wallet. They’re making things because people are buying them. Stop buying them. Vote for governments that make it cost prohibitive to create emissions. Join the citizens climate lobby. Just because one drop in the bucket seems insignificant doesn’t mean we cant collectively stop dripping. Make it the collective norm to be minimalist, make it awkward to consume in excess. Do something, but don’t pretend that we, the mass of people that are consuming things don’t directly impact the decisions of those 100 companies.
Thank God there’s people like you replying here. The defeatist stuff is crazy to me.
I door knock and work on campaign teams for leftist candidates and have seen such success it’s boggling to me that people sit back and decide they cannot do anything about it.
The change we need isn’t the perfect set of policies, what we need is a cultural shift. When people are personally invested in resolving climate change, they’ll push for changes in corporations, legislation, etc. If people don’t care, it’s not going to happen or happen very slowly.
So do what you can to set a good example for your neighbors, friends, and coworkers.
We’re going to be the first species to go extinct due to stupidity. A dude the other day told me that the guy who invented the weather channel says that global warming is due to Earth’s orbit not being a perfect circle. I don’t know how to combat that level of stupid.
If humans can save pandas from extinction we can damn well save ourselves. Easier said than done, I know, but we’re actually making a lot of progress on managing climate change behind the scenes. None of it draws the same attention as a headline like “the world is literally on fire and we’re all going to die” but that doesn’t mean that progress isn’t happening.
We saved pandas from extinction just because they’re ridiculously cute. Other animals aren’t faring as well, and the problem is most people who could do something to stop climate change look at the Earth and see profits.
People think we’re smarter than dolphins because we invented skyscrapers, digital watches, and war, while all the dolphins ever do is goof off in the oceans having fun. Dolphins know they’re smarter for the same reasons.
Talk like that invites complacency. There have always been and will always be stupid people, perhaps a little more than usual right now on account of the leaded fuel thing a while ago. But the true reason behind global warming isn’t because of stupidity, but because of individuals who find it more important to make money rather than keeping the environment safe. Those same individuals who lobby and bribe to keep laws and taxes off of them.
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