JesusSon,
@JesusSon@lemmy.world avatar

“Watch this, imma fuck with Putin real quick.”

kandoh,

Unnecessary, there is nothing Poland can offer that isn’t already guaranteed by an Ohio class submarine

antidote101,

Me too.

AFC1886VCC,

We already had the Cuban missile crisis before, we don’t need this shit again. This time it might go differently.

bigpEE,

Cool, let’s let them. Poland’s a strong ally in Europe. I don’t see a downside

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

you don’t see any downside to nuclear escalation?

bigpEE,

Countries that have nukes don’t get invaded. Simple as

AEsheron,

This isn’t the same. Host nukes is not owning nukes, they seems to be proposing housing US nukes that Poland would not have control of, or be able to launch. With no launch codes, they aren’t a valid deterrent to conventional war, unless the world is convinced the US would use them to protect Polish sovereignty, which would obviously not be on the table.

bigpEE,

How many countries owning or hosting nukes have been invaded?

hemko,

There’s no way USA would ever let Russia (or any other enemy) even near the nukes in Poland.

So really hosting USA’s nukes provides a double guarantee for help in case of invasion on top of NATO

Omega_Haxors,

The problem with the world is that good people are conflicted while evil people are confident.

Omniraptor,

it’s a mirror of “Cuba is a strong ally in the West, let’s let them have nukes. What could go wrong”

bigpEE,

Nothing did go wrong, though. If you’re saying there was a close call, that’s true, but Russia doesn’t have the ability to threaten a conventional response. And no one gets nuked for moving nukes around; look at Belarus.

shneancy,

Duda said it? Yeah let’s just ignore that

sylver_dragon,

While I can understand Poland’s desire to have nuclear weapons available, this seems like it would be a really provocative step towards Russia. Nuclear weapons positioned that close to Russia will raise the threat of a nuclear first strike against Russia. Even without an unstable strongman in charge of Russia, it’s easy to see how a Russian government would be uncomfortable with this. At the same time, with an unstable strongman in charge of Russia, the provocation may not matter. Putin has proven he is willing to invade his neighbor and slaughter thousands, without provocation. So, I’m sure Poland isn’t as worried about provocation as they are defense.

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

While I can understand Poland’s desire to have nuclear weapons available

Available to whom? Do you think he meant nonexistent Polish nukes? Or maybe USA ones which will be entirely outside Poland control.

NoIWontPickAName,

Good for yall

itsonlygeorge,

This cannot end well.

PolandIsAStateOfMind,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Oh it’s Duda, you can safely disregard that.

lemmyseizethemeans,

Good news everyone!

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