Rustmilian, (edited ) to memes in (TW: Found on Reddit) Always Found The Similarities Between Some Feminists and Puritanians Interesting
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You’ve miss interpreted my words.
Nobody is crying victim.
This is not about weather or not men’s issues are self imposed. It’s about the consistent oversimplification of the multifaceted problem that is men’s issues.

Men set these rules for other men

That’s not entirely true. There’s plenty of other factors you’re not taking into account. Fatherlessness, poverty, the lack of men’s mental health infrastructure and funding, the chosen ignorance of domestic violence against men & boys, the hashtag trending on Twitter back in May 2014, the sexualization of boys getting molested by women like some how that’s supposed to normal, female SO’s getting categorically lighter sentencing for the same crime, entrenched societal biases, the dismissal or trivialization of issues affecting men and so so much more. Then there’s the intersection of men’s issues with other marginalized identities, such as race, sexuality, and disability, creating additional complexities. Men’s issues are multifaceted and go beyond simplistic narratives like “men hurt men” copout bs.

and I can’t really wrap my head around the concept of men asking men to stop taking away the rights of men.

It’s easy once you realize that the problem with the “gender war” is not women vs men, it’s the poor vs the government + the rich.

Please consider watching :
Pt.1 & Pt.2 , I know they’re long, but you’ll have a much deeper understanding of my perspective.

JDubbleu, (edited ) to mensliberation in Can Parents Prevent Their Sons From Sliding to the Right?

The scholarship thing, and lack of social support for men in general, is still a massive problem IMO. I’m all for lifting those up who need it, but many people, myself included, were too “rich” to get financial aid, too poor to afford anything other than community college (which is great, but it has challenges of its own), and too straight and white and male to quality for 95% of scholarships. I’m very aware I inherently have some level of privilege, and I’m sure there’s even more I’m unaware of, but the single greatest contribution to your chance of success in life is the zip code you were born in.

I’m extremely privileged and make more than enough money for a comfortable living, but the road here was very difficult, and it’s pretty damn easy to see why young boys are leaning right so hard. I’m left as fuck and id even be considered left wing in Europe, but the left in the US has alienated the fuck out of young men and provides almost 0 role models for them. The constant media messaging and sentiment of men are evil, they need to go die in wars, and on social media being celebrated is super damaging. If I didn’t end up decently successful and couldn’t take a step back and get a top down view of everything I don’t know if I’d end up nearly as left as I am.

It’s only recently I’ve seen some sentiment change around this, but it’s going to take a long time as all social change does. We really ought to stop telling young boys what to not be and instead SHOW THEM what they should strive to be. This is why people like Andrew Tate get such a cult following. Despite being an absolute dog shit human being, he focuses on uplifting oneself and provides an ideal person who you should strive to be. By comparison that positive male role model who young boys should strive to be is completely absent on the left and leaves many boys, myself included at the time, lost as fuck and surrounded by what they should not be instead of what they should.

AdolfSchmitler, to news in ‘Andrew Tate is a symptom, not the problem’: why young men are turning against feminism

I feel like a lot of people confuse feminism for straight up misandry. ? ? These were started by so called “feminists” but this is the definition of misandry.

And people wonder why young men don’t like feminism when this might have been their only exposure to it.

Shiggles, to my_mouldy_memes in Using that word says everything about you, your intention, and how fragile your ego is, and nothing at all about actual feminism

“Femnazis” are the ones saying and that garbage. Anything and everything has an extreme taken too far, feminism is no different.

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