Billy

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Netanyahu hoped Hamas would reject Israel's offer. When it didn't, he turned to sabotage (www.haaretz.com)

Israel’s criminal defendant prime minister, more focused on saving his incompetent far-right government than saving the hostages who have spent seven months trapped in Gaza, is doing everything he can to torpedo Israel’s last and best chance at bringing the hostages home...

Billy,

about the last part, the eu banned rt and sputnik news.
does that mean eu countries aren’t democracies?

Billy, (edited )

last part as in ‘They also shut down AlJezeera news and Israel claims they are the ‘‘only democracy in the Middle East’’’

they have the same laws for all citizens. jews, muslims, druze, etc.
palestinians living in the west bank are citizens of the pa (or jordan), not of israel.
the situation in area c of the west bank is a result of the failed oslo accords and bibi’s policy of “status quo”.
article by prof mohammed wattad, who is an israeli-arab (his own words)
israel’s declaration of independence
basic laws of israel

shutting down a state backed media group that has ties to the muslim brotherhood (hamas is a branch of theirs), from a hostile state that hosts the billionaire leaders of hamas, is similar to the shutting down of rt in europe - which is a state backed media group of a hostile state.

in israel you don’t vote for the prime minister, you vote for a party. as part of the coalition creating process, the pm is chosen as part of the agreements between parties.
one of the pm’s parties in 2022, naftali bennet, had much less votes than the likud ever had.
basic law: the government
knesset

posting something twice and then replying to someone with a similar link isn’t “spamming”.
pointing out the reality of this specific action / situation isn’t “defending” anything. that’s a very black and white view of things.
same as when i criticize a state it doesn’t instantly mean i’m against it or hate it.

Billy,

ah ok, some of the most democratic countries in the world aren’t democratic.
which countries are then? qatar? north korea?

Billy,

plenty of israelis criticize israel all the time.
the existance of media groups like haaretz and 972 in israel, which criticize israel all the time are a good example.
the massive protests are another.

Billy,

fair enough.
added some, will add more later.

Billy,

a case of an anti-semitic doctor who praises terrorists and flouts a visa ban, isn’t enough to declare some of the most democratic countries in the world “not democratic”.
here’s one of the articles by him in arabic praising a terrorist who murdered a rabbi.

Israel orders Al Jazeera to close its local operation and seizes some of its equipment (apnews.com)

Israel ordered the local offices of Qatar’s Al Jazeera satellite news network to close Sunday, escalating a long-running feud between the broadcaster and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s hard-line government as Doha-mediated cease-fire negotiations with Hamas hang in the balance....

Message From a Gazan to Campus Protesters: You're Hurting the Palestinian Cause (www.newsweek.com)

It’s unconscionable. But it’s not just the antisemitism that has me despairing. It’s the hypocrisy. Where were these caring young people when Hamas took over Gaza and slaughtered hundreds of Gazans, or when Hamas held 2 million Gazans captive for more than 17 years? Why didn’t they speak out about the fact that Hamas led...

Billy,

where’d you get that from? another “truthout” article?
only the south of israel is mainly desert.

Billy,

how do you explain rabin and the oslo accords then?
and all the israelis who voted for parties that support the 2 state solution?

Billy,

other than the 834 executions last year of protesters / dissidents and general killings of protesters, here’s 1 known killing of an iranian journalist.
there’s also the other attempts to kill iranian journalists abroad, but fortunately they’re incompetent.

Billy,

the conspiracy theory is about shabak, not the mossad and it was spread by radical israeli right-wingers as a conpiracy by, what they consider, a leftist shabak that was trying to delegitimize the right and increase the support for the left.
yigal amir supported kahanists like ben gvir and his ilk, not the likud.

after rabin, there was ehud barak who was voted in, who also tried to reach a 2 state solution with arafat in 2000.

Billy,

you wrote “You can admire Israel’s natural beauty (which is just deserts really?)”.
if you’ve been there, you’re supposed to know that while the south of israel is mostly deserts, you won’t find any deserts in the rest of it.

Billy,

i wrote most of the south, not most of israel…
and you wrote “just deserts”…
the center and north don’t have deserts.
there are meadows and forests. in some places there’s snow in the winter.
so again, not “just deserts really”. which is what you wrote.

Israeli Weapon Damaged Iranian Air Defenses Without Being Detected, Officials Say (www.nytimes.com)

“The two Iranian officials said the weapon had struck an S-300 antiaircraft system at a military base in the nearby province of Isfahan. The officials’ account is supported by satellite imagery analyzed by The New York Times, which showed damage to the radar of an S-300 system at the Eighth Shekari Air Base in Isfahan.”...

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