The first post here has 15 upvotes visible to me. Next post is in the 300s. I’m glad to see hobbydrama regaining its community but I’m curious where the influx of users came from.
That’s not my question, I understand how federation works. I want to know how to find a post on kbin.social and change the link so I can open it on kbin.cafe and interact with it on my kbin.cafe account. This often happens if I see an interesting post on a magazine that nobody on my instance is subscribed to yet.
I’m really sorry but I feel like you’re answering a question I don’t have, and explaining things I already know.
When I made this post, I already understood that
people on kbin.cafe need to subscribe to a magazine on kbin.social to make any posts from it show up on kbin.cafe. The only posts that will show are ones made after a kbin.cafe user subscribed there.
these posts have the potential to show up on general/all, and when I search for them.
I can interact with these posts on my kbin.cafe account.
What I am asking is how I can access a specific kbin.social post that I first find on the kbin.social site, through kbin.cafe in such a way that I am able to interact with it. I am already aware of these methods:
have a kbin.social account. Follow it with your kbin.cafe account. Use the kbin.social account to boost the post. It will show up for all your followers—which means you on your kbin.cafe account. Now you can interact. I am looking for a method other than this, because it feels dirty and why bother with this boosting process if I can already interact with my existing kbin.social account? If the point is just to use an alternate account to obfuscate my identity, I can do the same thing using an alternate account on kbin.social instead of kbin.cafe.
use the search on kbin.cafe to look for the post. I am looking for a method other than this because if the post did not federate over, this fails—but I won’t know if I failed to find the post because I searched the wrong terms and just need to keep trying, or if I failed and should give up because the post failed to federate over. Also, if many posts match the keywords, it becomes tedious to search through all the results.
I want to know if there is any faster way to do this, or if I’m stuck with these hacky-feeling workarounds.
I haven’t even made it that far yet. I don’t know what to make at all. Garment, accessory, who knows? Although I don’t think I’m quite experienced enough for full-on garments yet, I don’t have good consistency with tension yet so rows don’t look uniform. Also, I’m not completely new to knitting but my know-how is very much beginner level.
None of my projects have had good tension, although dropped stitches don’t really become a problem because just as I compulsively hit Ctrl+S, I also compulsively add lifelines.
Today, we’re going to dive into a forgotten corner of TV and comedy history. In 2002, Chevy Chase was roasted for the second time in the Friar’s Club. Despite being largely forgotten, this event would have massive ripple effects. If you’ve ever watched a roast in the past two decades, especially on Comedy Central, chances...
This post is a sort of partial dump of my efforts towards an idea/proposal for improving discoverability and onboarding for the Fediverse while avoiding new users just being dumped on a centralised instance. I’ve seen people suggest that one of our secondary defenses from megacorp social media (like Meta) is improving our UI,...
I like this idea, would probably do well if proposed on the kbin codeberg as well.
I really hope we don’t force users who sign up to pick one of a few preselected communities to subscribe to. No Skip button, no option to search for other communities, you must select some communities from this small list in order to move on. I’ve seen the same pattern in habit tracker apps with preselected habits instead of communities, and likely in other contexts that I’m forgetting right now. Walk the user through a tutorial to get them up and running as soon as possible, but no option to skip it or customize anything if you’re tech-savvy and don’t like the default options, and don’t need to be handheld through. It was always incredibly annoying.
There's a few users I've been keeping an eye on after seeing them post misinformation and hate speech. Just keeping a list for now because I don't know how to report them. Where should I go to do this?
I reported. The results might be different if the report comes from someone on your own instance, so you might want to sign up with a dummy account on your own instance and report yourself.
Imagine starting [a subreddit], hyping it up, patiently providing four-fifths of the content until people show up, moderating spam, moderating jerks, growing it gradually over time. Setting rules, establishing tone, running the weekly topical threads. Would you feel like that /r/whateverItWas existed because of Reddit the company? Would you feel like it fundamentally belonged to his Royal Highness Steve, and Steve was just delegating it to you to run? No! You started it! You shaped it! You collaborated with the people it attracted to make it what it is! Even those users – they could switch tomorrow to /r/whateverItWasTwo and you couldn’t do a thing about it – if they decided they didn’t like your vision for /r/whateverItWas, they would, so the fact that they’re still here is a kind of voting with your feet, it validates what you’re doing… To the extent that /r/whateverItWas exists as a thing within Reddit as a whole, to be run or misrun, managed or mismanaged? It feels like yours.
But at the same time, to an external observer – you can see how they would feel that this is pretty silly, right? The thing that’s “yours” is nothing but rows and columns in Reddit’s databases13, a series of flags giving you the power to moderate. The only thing you have is set in Reddit’s systems, a permission to edit stuff under a certain scope a bit differently than other users, wowee aren’t you important. It’s not you who has a license to the user posts, it’s not you who controls anything but a tiny little square of grass Reddit let you mow. You’re gonna protest over that? The world at large already doesn’t understand why you might volunteer for this work, why you might care enough to do it unpaid – you seem like a schmuck to them, a victim.
or a power tripper.
I’ll admit that some mods probably are on a power trip. A clear example of “probably not, they have an actual reason to want to stay in power” is r/askhistorians, where you probably don’t want random people replacing people with lots of historical knowledge on a subreddit specifically about history that only allows informative replies complete with a works cited. They care about the online space they’ve built, not that they have a ban hammer and can wield it with prejudice. I’d imagine a lot of other mods are pretty similar. Knowledge about their niche community, though probably not as much as the people on r/askhistorians, a certain subreddit culture that they don’t want to collapse and fall apart… they’d rather preserve the online space they and many other people enjoy. Even if it just looks like free labor and power tripping to outsiders whenever they don’t want to just up and abandon Reddit.
I would think stepping down has some risks at the moment because you don’t know who’s replacing you. Someone who also cares about the niche topic just like you, or someone on r/redditrequest who just wants to collect the subreddit as their 483th moderated sub and won’t do anything? Less of a big deal if you have several mods, but if you’re the only one…
I’m not a mod, but I think if I became one I would hold onto my position unless I knew my replacement would be good. Don’t want them removing the rule against calling people slurs, then I and many others might start avoiding the community that gave me joy. Of course, this is a more drastic example about concerns over how a replacement mod would moderate—but you’ve probably seen internet fights about seemingly niche problems and mods probably don’t want a stable community position on that topic devolving into firefights over it again. Could be taken as power tripping, enforcing your opinion on a specific small position and being unhappy that someone else might not do that anymore, but could also just be genuine desire for a peaceful place and not wanting flame wars over that contentious topic.
Right now, if you don’t quit protesting and get your entire mod team removed by Reddit, you will all be replaced by an unknown. Will they take the “wrong” stance on Niche Problem and upset the community? More importantly, will they even care and remove harassment and ban rule-breakers? Or will it be a free-for-all as they do absolutely nothing? Now this might not be a problem if everyone would just move off of Reddit, but that’s easier said than done.
Also, people who probably have history degrees may not be better people than me or superior to me in general, but I’d imagine they’re more highly qualified to run a history subreddit than I am. There’s the arrogant “I’m superior to everyone” and there’s also the realistic “I am superior to the average person at this one particular task.” Most average people have some level of competence in an area that surpasses that of others in at least their immediate social group. Maybe this friend grows really good tomatoes, you’d want them to teach you to do that and not your friend who doesn’t do that. You’re all equally worthy people, but tomato-growing friend is honestly superior to the rest of your social circle in that one task. You don’t have to believe you have some amazing special gift nobody else can acquire, just that you might have interests some others might not and spent time gaining skills related to that interest that others spent elsewhere.
Since when is Reddit the beacon of all that is right in regards of information? Why not pack up and start an community somewhere else?
Reddit is not the beacon of everything right, it’s also carried disinformation before. But it is a place a lot of people liked to source information from. People might want to leave up posts to help other people who search something, keeping in mind Average Joe who just wants his tech problem fixed (and of course, found nowhere else online where it got solved) and favoring his plight over leaving good data in Reddit hands for them to get more clicks and money from.
Also, packing up and moving somewhere else is easier said than done. I’ve been trying to get people to move from one nice niche community to a Fediverse replacement, messaging moderation teams and posting about the existing Fediverse replacement in the subreddit. A lot of people just kept posting on the subreddit. Sometimes this post about the Fediverse replacement has extremely restricted visibility because it gets removed if not put in a self-promotion thread nobody reads. Mod teams don’t always reply. It’s easier with official backing instead of one random user doing it, but even still a lot of subs with official Fediverse replacements still have people posting on the original.
Why even protest? The most ironic thing should be that r/AskHistorians should know of all people what happens with mutinies or strikes that have weak or no resolve.
I actually have no idea what their actions are besides not all abandoning stepping down, but I’m pretty sure they have posts about it. Will edit this post with links to them.
EDIT: most current post (link is libreddit and will not give Reddit traffic)
Why would you even strike when you would fold by the first sign of friction that is coming your way?
Why do people make New Year’s Eve resolutions that they break within the first month? Because they don’t have a crystal ball and think they can do it, and not everyone is exposed to statistics about how most New Year’s Eve resolutions get broken. I think it’s encouraging they at least tried, not everyone is born a perfect protestor.
As for your last three paragraphs, good for the union, honestly, it would be nice if stories like that were more common. Especially from people who have a ton to lose if it goes wrong—that goes above and beyond in my eyes.
Would also like to add that even if they did step down, it might cause issues.
For a good deal of subs, I imagine a mod team opening and promoting a Fediverse equivalent, and totally dropping the Reddit community would be fine. Move to the Fediverse, or deal with spamming and random trolls from potentially inactive new mods or the community being led in a strange (possibly hateful) direction from active new mods. Or just stop looking at the Reddit community entirely. Although it’s still possible these mods stay because they want to prevent people from having their day ruined by inactive new mods allowing some surprise NSFL gore on a very SFW sub.
For other ones, like r/lgbtq, this suddenly doesn’t seem like such a great choice to force on people. I acknowledge targeted harassment might still happen outside of r/lgbtq, but if I wanted to be homophobic, I’d seek out people on the subreddit for gay people. It probably gets more of it than the average sub. And there’s an expectation of that sub being safe from harassment in a world where many of its users expect harassment in most other spaces. Do you want to leave these users out in the cold if you pack it up for good and abandon Reddit modding? It’s possible your new replacements might also remove harassment and homophobia and transphobia, but I think it’s more likely they’ll do nothing. It’s also possible some homophobe signs up to mod it and starts posting homophobic trash. Do you want to subject people to this if they don’t move accounts? Most people would probably choose leaving at least one person from the current mod team to prevent just that.
Also, the potential of getting less activity on the Fediverse might actually matter. Say 1% of people browsing a support sub will give needed help. If 100 people would see the post on Reddit, but then you migrated to the Fediverse and now only 30 people see each post, posters have a smaller chance of getting the help they need.
Maybe mods of stuff like r/aww won’t cause too much damage to their users by jumping ship and leaving Reddit, having to quit looking at cute pictures because now it’s being spammed isn’t really the end of the world. Mods of support communities could do more damage if they quit. Not getting the money for your insulin could be the end of your world. Popping into r/lgbtq after receiving hate in real life from loved ones, expecting to find community support for your struggles only to get hate speech on your feed and your post, could help push you along to ending your world a lot faster.
Fully aware that a similar situation could happen on r/aww too. Could be the one bright spot in someone’s day, they go there after receiving hate from loved ones, now there’s NSFL gore of a guy killed for being gay with the title “[insert slur here] gets what’s coming to them,” could help push them along to ending their world a lot faster. I think this kind of case is probably closer to “edge case” than “would probably happen frequently if mods left,” but it’s probably still present in the minds of some mod teams who didn’t totally step down yet.
Hey guys. I admittedly am mostly a layman to the Fediverse as a concept. So I am coming into this post with the knowledge that I don’t understand the technical intricacies of it....
Hey, I’m an onlooker and really appreciate you answering these questions. I read once that debates/arguments may not change the minds of the participants, but they do change the minds of onlookers.
If OP is legit, thanks for the answers, it probably feels bad to ask questions and come away with zero answers and several accusations of being something you are not. If OP is a PR infiltrator, you’re probably assuaging doubts Meta tried to plant with this post in regards to taking a hard anti-Meta stance and fully defederating.
Honestly, I think what's going on here is "new platform good, nonadopters bad" and people wanting to believe that this Twitter user is actually confused by us, not making a joke, because we're special smart kids for adopting the Fediverse and anyone who does not is a dummy-dumb-dumb-doodoo head. Of course, not in such crass words, or so obviously laid out, otherwise we'd all catch that kind of thinking for what it is immediately. This team good, that team bad. Fun in sporting matches, not so great when we actively want people to come here and ditch Twitter, and when we get condescending towards other human beings.
That is my honest personal interpretation but I could be wrong :P I'm also affected by my own biases and maybe I am seeing this pattern where it doesn't actually exist.
Frequent assumption: I am smart and logical, so everything I think is driven by logic.
Frequent corollary: If I ever admit to being driven by emotion, I look stupid.
Maybe in some circles, but I think it’s better to be self-aware and to try to fix the holes in your own thinking. If you can’t see when you’re being influenced by emotion when you might not want to be, you can make a lot more illogical decisions and take your life down a path you don’t want. Doesn’t seem very smart to me. But people of all levels of intelligence fall victim to pride, so this happens anyways.
As you enter more online spaces you start getting a feel for what different communities put in their rules and notice it’s usually the same. Don’t be a dick. Don’t spam. Don’t post illegal stuff here. No (or limited) self-promotion, we’ll consider it spam. And you stop reading the rules. Maybe this is why so many people use the downvote to express disagreement?
I don’t use some of them nearly enough, but I really like Zim Wiki on desktop/laptop for the ability to link to different files in my notes. For on the go, I tend to use Joplin right now as I like that it’s open source & relatively easy to sync between my PC & phone....
I wanted to learn TiddlyWiki but I wanted to be able to edit from my iOS device. As far as I remember, I needed an app to do that, one that wasn't officially supported. So I went to Obsidian instead. I appreciate that it stores notes on your device so you are not locked in in case anything happens. And that I have an officially supported iOS app.
ActivityPub, the protocol that powers the fediverse (including Mastodon – same caveats as the first two times, will be used interchangeably, deal with it) is not private. It is not even semi-private. It is a completely public medium and absolutely nothing posted on it, including direct messages, can be seen as even remotely...
"Direct Message" and "Private Message" indeed mean different things. In practice, because both involve messaging one individual user, a good deal of people (including myself) still expect them to be functionally the same. Part of this functionality we expect is that there is an attempt to make these messages less visible and easy to access than the reply I just sent to you right now. This expectation is validated on Twitter:
Direct Messages are the private side of Twitter. You can use Direct Messages to have private conversations with people about Tweets and other content.
a private message sent on a social media website, that only the person it is sent to can see
and by the fact that if you go on anyone's profile, you can see post history, comment history, and boosts, but not a list of who they tried to send an individual message to or what those messages were. I believe that more technical people could retrieve such messages, that the messages are not totally secure, but to my layman eyes, I do still expect that there was at least an attempt to make these messages private.
Right now it feels like a lot of extra work to do it right. So I just postponed watching valuable content, because I need it to watch while taking notes. It is different to when I just watched videos and felt smart for a minute. Only to forget about it in a week…
So I just postponed watching valuable content, because I need it to watch while taking notes. It is different to when I just watched videos and felt smart for a minute. Only to forget about it in a week…
I don't have the energy to watch everything right away, but I can just send it to a Read/Watch It Later area or copy/paste the URL into a "to be processed later" area.
It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....
I’m honestly sure you don’t mean “retarded” as a personal attack against people with developmental disabilities.
There’s also a very long history of people using that exact same word to attack them. Many people who make arguments like yours, that they should still get to use the word, tend to also be prejudiced against these people and treat them poorly. Maybe you’re not like that, but using that word does make you look a lot more like these people.
You making an argument to try to keep using the word, even though it hurts people, essentially tells them “I will not change one word in my vocabulary to accommodate your feelings and history of being hurt by this word.” Your choice on if you want to change your words to in an effort to get people to interpret you in a way that better matches your intent, or if you’d like to stick to your guns even if it means lots of people will get hurt. After all, people are free to interpret words however they wish, including in ways that you don’t intend them to and ways you don’t mean. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people affected by this word to not want you in their communities if you want to keep using that word, at least if they didn’t promise you absolute freedom of speech.
How do I view a post made on one instance from my instance? (kbin.cafe)
I’m on kbin.cafe. Let’s use the top post of kbinMeta as an example....
What do you make when you’re stuck on ideas for what to make? (kbin.cafe)
I’m currently experiencing this dilemma. I want to knit something but am not sure what to make.
[Comedy] How to piss off everyone you've ever met so badly that they can't even be bothered to insult you: the roast of Chevy Chase
Today, we’re going to dive into a forgotten corner of TV and comedy history. In 2002, Chevy Chase was roasted for the second time in the Friar’s Club. Despite being largely forgotten, this event would have massive ripple effects. If you’ve ever watched a roast in the past two decades, especially on Comedy Central, chances...
Improving Fediverse Discovery & Onboarding
This post is a sort of partial dump of my efforts towards an idea/proposal for improving discoverability and onboarding for the Fediverse while avoiding new users just being dumped on a centralised instance. I’ve seen people suggest that one of our secondary defenses from megacorp social media (like Meta) is improving our UI,...
How to report users and/or posts?
There's a few users I've been keeping an eye on after seeing them post misinformation and hate speech. Just keeping a list for now because I don't know how to report them. Where should I go to do this?
Reddit demands moderators remove NSFW labels, or else (www.theverge.com)
Article by The Verge, providing details about various subreddits and their mods getting threatened because they are labeled as NSFW
Some good-faith questions of some seemingly apparent benefits of a potential Corporate Fediverse, and the detriments of defederating from a Corporate Fediverse. Could I get some answers?
Hey guys. I admittedly am mostly a layman to the Fediverse as a concept. So I am coming into this post with the knowledge that I don’t understand the technical intricacies of it....
Twitter users try to comprehend the Fediverse, they can't.
Could we get official word on what Kbin's stance is towards federating with Meta?
I would like to know if I can feel safe here, or if I should pack it up and start looking elsewhere sooner rather than later....
Some of my favorite PKMS tools!
I don’t use some of them nearly enough, but I really like Zim Wiki on desktop/laptop for the ability to link to different files in my notes. For on the go, I tend to use Joplin right now as I like that it’s open source & relatively easy to sync between my PC & phone....
OC The fediverse is a privacy nightmare (blog.bloonface.com)
ActivityPub, the protocol that powers the fediverse (including Mastodon – same caveats as the first two times, will be used interchangeably, deal with it) is not private. It is not even semi-private. It is a completely public medium and absolutely nothing posted on it, including direct messages, can be seen as even remotely...
How do you find energy to do pkms?
Right now it feels like a lot of extra work to do it right. So I just postponed watching valuable content, because I need it to watch while taking notes. It is different to when I just watched videos and felt smart for a minute. Only to forget about it in a week…
OC Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery.
It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....