I can understand that, but they need to focus right now. Broadening into a larger movement needs to wait until the genocide is over. Otherwise it ends up getting diluted as people splinter off for different causes.
It happened before that too. I remember during an anti-Iraq war march before the war in 2003… a massive march in L.A. People were chanting anti-Bush and pro-peace slogans, and then the chants changed into things about Palestine and Haiti. And I was there thinking, “I sympathize with both of those issues, but I thought we were here to protest an upcoming war in Iraq?” And then the anarchists took over and started smashing things and the cops came in and the helicopter started flying low and it all went to shit. When we were supposed to be marching for peace on the eve of war.
Edit: And then there was the guy on the sidelines with a bullhorn chastising all of the people marching with, “how can you be in favor of peace if you eat meat?” Again- I don’t eat meat but pick a better time.
Not only is it a bad idea from within, it looks bad from the outside too. People think that your cause isn’t enough, that you have to find other things to get worked up about. Maybe it’s not that big a deal in that case…
“I will always stand with Israel and the Jewish people.”
So will I, Jerry. That’s one of the many reasons why I am against this war. It makes the world think that Jews are murderers. Why are you okay with that? I’m Jewish too, Jerry. I’m tired of people associating me with Israel and judging me because of it, aren’t you?
Agreed. The technology may look out of date, the music is old, some of the jokes are things younger people won’t get (“Michael Bolton,” “Superman III,” etc.), but there are still frustrating hardware notifications on things like printers and copiers, there are still asshole bosses, and there’s still ridiculous amounts of busywork in a soul-crushing environment. It’s as relevant today as it was then in so many ways.
I was there with a group of parents and kids for a teen meetup. We did think he fell off at first. Then it turned by itself and we were all like “wtf?”
In this particular instance, I am sort of indifferent about it, because I don’t think sitting on a riding mower is an especially taxing job and the guy still had to be there to put it in the right place and make sure nothing went wrong.
I don’t know about equals. She’s far more educated than me and I’ve never made as much money as her (I’m fine with that), but we are definitely loving and share things at home.
But the thing is… writing by committee has always been the norm- including for Seinfeld, which makes me wonder how much he was actually involved in the writing process.
The very idea of a writer’s room is writing by committee.
Jimmy Carr is makes fun of gay people. He just does it in a funny way without trying to be offensive, so people still like his comedy specials. It helps that he is incredibly self-deprecating and does things like suggest he’s a pedophile.
There are ways to make jokes about sexuality without being mean. That’s the trick.
So he picks shows that had some racism in them as justification that we should still have racism around for entertainment purposes?
He also picked shows that were “extreme left” for their time. MAS*H was full of left-wing morals and speeches from the pens of both Larry Gelbart and Alan Alda and was savagely critical of an American war against communists while America was still in Vietnam.
Mary Tyler Moore was about an independent career woman in the 1960s, when women weren’t allowed to have their own credit cards.
All in the Family was about a conservative racist constantly being shown that the world had moved on from his archaic ideas about the way things should be.
So what is his issue with the “extreme left” exactly if those were the shows he picked?
I think Seinfeld was pretty funny in the 80s. His style of observational comedy was fresh back then though. Then there were a million Seinfeld copycats and there wasn’t anything special about him anymore.
The same thing happened with Carlin. So he kept reinventing himself and updating his comedy with the times and that’s why people loved him until the day he died.
But you have to look at it within the context of the time. At that point, even the horrible people had redeeming qualities. Archie Bunker was a right-wing racist, but his heart was often in the right place. Murphy Brown was horrible to her coworkers, but she fought for the right causes.
And then Seinfeld came out. Everyone in it was horrible. Irredeemably so. There was just nothing else like it at the time.
It also did some really interesting things in terms of experimentation with what you could do with a sitcom, like the episode that takes place entirely while they are waiting in a restaurant for Chinese takeout.
It’s a totally outdated concept now because it’s been done again and again, but it was pretty revolutionary at the time. Personally, I credit this to Larry David, not Jerry Seinfeld.
It’s Not Just Gaza: Student Protesters See Links to a Global Struggle (www.nytimes.com)
Jessica Seinfeld and Bill Ackman Fund Pro-Israel Counterprotests at Colleges (www.thedailybeast.com)
Jerry Seinfeld’s wife funding agitators
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