Grail

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Grail, (edited )

I recommend reading the article, I’m very proud of it.

I wrote this article because I was inspired by something Ian Danskin recently said. See, he used the word ncstic as an insult in a recent video. I spoke to him about it, and he agreed to remove it as it’s ableist, and left a comment on the video discussing the issue. I’m very grateful that Ian cares about disability issues. But he also said he’s disappointed that psychologists named a mental disorder after the Greek myth, and that got Me thinking. Is the original Greek myth worth making cultural reference to, if the word were not an ableist slur? So naturally, I analysed the myth, and discovered that it’s queerphobic, heteropatriarchal, and vaguely ephebophilic. Turns out there’s no good reason at all to use the word as an insult, even if you’re referencing Greek mythology!

I find that fact kind of beautiful, because it defangs excuses used by ableists that they were referring to Greek mythology all along. If they really were, well their words suck just as bad. So they can’t hide behind such excuses anymore.

Anyway now I stan Narcissus as an aroace king 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 🖤🤍💜

Grail,

Ovid’s Metamorphoses.

Grail,

Book III, Fable VII.

Grail,

Oh, it gets worse. While NPD has a genetic component, like all personality disorders it seems to be triggered by early childhood trauma. It would seem that if you get abused by your parents badly enough to get a personality disorder, genetics determine whether you get NPD or something else like BPD. The hatred of people with NPD is victim blaming. It’s saying you’re evil cause your parents abused you. Here are My other articles about NPD:

medium.com/…/anarcho-narcissism-b647c8062173

medium.com/…/why-reactionaries-hate-pride-and-nar…

Grail,

It makes sense when you realise that two-spirit isn’t what two-spirit people call themselves at home. In their own tribe’s cultural context, everybody knows the specific name for their gender and what it culturally means. Two-spirit was invented on purpose as a shorthand for describing dozens or hundreds of different things in a language people outside that one single tribe can all understand. It’s as manufactured and as broad as the sequence of letters “LGBT”, an umbrella term that arose during a specific cultural moment as part of a push for equality.

Grail,

If you’d like help understanding those hard to follow parts of the article, I’d be happy to explain them in more detail. In fact, I might be able to edit the article to improve its clarity if you can tell Me what parts are lacking.

Grail,

Is it the part about humans having divine genders that’s confusing, or the part about gods being nonbinary and Aphrodite having a divine, nonhuman femininity?

Grail,

Well, I mention gods being nonbinary as a supporting point for the idea that gender is informed by religion, and I mention divinegender humans because a lot of people are tranphobic against divinegender people, and I think right after someone learns that all genders are religiously informed is the best time to tell someone about people who are often attacked for the religion in their genders.

Or from another point of view, the point of the article is “Don’t be transphobic to people with religious genders”, the fact that all genders are religious is an appeal to empathy to get people to not be transphobic, and I talk about two-spirit, bissu, and divinegender as examples of people with religious genders not to be transphobic to.

Grail,

Oh, plenty of people see a divinegender person and decide to go all “Your gender is an unjust hierarchy because all gods think they’re better than everyone and no anarchist or god-fearing christian would ever respect your gender”. I’m just mythbusting the most common complaint about what I’m saying, which is to not be transphobic. I never considered that someone would be unfamiliar enough with deiphobic tropes to see that section as a non-sequitur. Interesting.

Grail, (edited )

Discord, mostly. A bit of it leaks onto Xitter as well. I actually got involved in a bunch of discourse yesterday. Someone who had previously been accepting of My pronouns suddenly decided to debate Me about them and say I have no right to control the language other people use to refer to Me. imgur.com/a/bs5zXTM

Generally discussions about these fringe queer topics will be more common on more personal social media, and less common on less personal media. That’s because people with fringe queer identities feel safer being themselves in a more personal environment, and in a less personal environment, dominant social attitudes are more powerful, so on a reddit-like platform divinegender people just get downvoted to oblivion.

Grail,

Wow, you’re being really trans accepting. Thank you so much.

Well, three years ago I realised I was goddessgender (this is a subset of divinegender), and My goddess-mother told Me I should try capitalised pronouns. I tried them, and they gave Me gender euphoria, so I kept them. As for verbally? Most people can neither pronounce nor hear the difference, so I’m not picky about it at all.

I only ever had one problem with pronoun capitalisation being spoken. I had this ex girlfriend who was hiding My gender from her other partners because she was scared they were going to be transphobic about it. So she took advantage of their inability to hear the difference and let them think she was using lowercase pronouns. I didn’t consent to being put back in the closet by her, and considered it misgendering, since it’s dishonest about My pronouns. It had a lot to do with why we broke up.

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  • Grail,

    I’d appreciate it if you didn’t say such mean things about my mental disorder. At the very least, maybe you could swap the word “narcissist” for person-first language into “person living with NPD”.

    Grail,

    There’s no scientific evidence that people with NPD are dangerous. You’re just spreading unfounded rumours that you haven’t bothered to verify, about how mental disorders make people dangerous.

    Grail,

    Donald Trump does not have an NPD diagnosis. If you’re going to name random people to invent an argument, then I may as well do the same thing and claim that Bob Ross, Mr Rogers, and Carl Sagan had NPD.

    www.narcissisticabuserehab.com/darvo/

    Narcissistic Abuse Rehab is a hate website founded on reactionary feelings, not on science. DARVO is a real thing, and I’m sure they have good sources for its existence. But they have no sources connecting DARVO with NPD, because there isn’t a connection.

    selfgrowth.com/…/pathological-lying-narcissistic-…

    That’s an opinion piece that appears to be based on a tweet. It’s not scientific evidence.

    psychcentral.com/blog/…/narcissistic-projection#1

    That’s an opinion piece on a blog which cites other opinion pieces on blogs. It’s not scientific evidence.

    just the diagnostic criteria from the DSM indicate the dangers:

    Only one of them does, and its inclusion in the DSM was controversial. Many experts argued against even including NPD as a diagnosis.

    psychiatrictimes.com/…/new-insights-narcissistic-…

    Conceptualizations and diagnostic definitions of narcissistic personality disorder have primarily focused on the more strikingly provocative, self-enhancing, entitled interpersonal behaviors and attitudes that tend to capture the attention of clinicians rather than on the patient’s underlying, internal struggles. This has contributed to making the diagnosis more judgmental rather than informative.

    Here’s another source:

    thehotline.org/…/abuse-and-mental-illness-is-ther…

    A common assumption we hear at The Hotline is that abuse is caused by a partner’s mental health condition, for example: bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), narcissistic personality, borderline personality or antisocial personality. While these are serious mental health conditions, they do not cause abuse. Nothing in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth edition (DSM 5) states that a mental illness solely causes a partner to be abusive in a relationship; however, there are a select few diagnoses that can increase the risk of abusive patterns to show up in a relationship and in other areas of life.

    Grail,

    People with NPD should be seen as victims because NPD is a mental disorder and a disability, because it’s caused by child abuse, because it increases lifelong vulnerability to intimate abuse, and because you’re currently claiming disabled people are bullies.

    You also came into this comment section to attack disabled people without reading the article.

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