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Hey @KronoMoon, going forward please make sure that posts directly address the topic of UAP. I understand the potential connection, but I want to make sure members of the community don’t have to guess the relevance. I may have to start removing posts if they aren’t directly on topic here or become too frequent. I am fine with occasional posts to boost similar communities, so feel free to make a follow up post on a day leading up to the eclipse to boost awareness of your community.

MUFON's Statement on Site's Cyber Attack

An email just sent by MUFON addresses a cyber attack last week that took their sightings’ database offline. This is the first official statement I’ve seen on it and I’ll post a link once available. The attack does seem crippling to their research, though the full extent may yet to be determined....

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I was eagerly awaiting the Sol Foundation videos to post. Most importantly that of Karl Nell, retired Colonel US Army and former Deputy Chief of Staff, US Africa Command. Nell gives a breakdown of legislation, how UAP classification has been kept from Congress, guidelines of what constitutes UAP, and the overall impact of disclosure.

The basis of his presentation revolved around the formation of the former Schumer UAP amendement and timeline for disclosure. And, while the Schumer Amendment was stripped of some its strongest components (review board, eminent domain, etc.), the fundamentals are still in place to kick off controlled disclosure of UAP. This should serve as good basis for where we’re at with potential disclosure and potential progress made in coming years.

More videos from The Sol Foundation’s conference can be found on their YouTube page.

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That event stays on my mind thinking about the current state of the topic. It seemed to be a turning point in how the government was addressing UAP. David Grusch had already spoken to the ICIG and provided info to Congress, though I don’t know that he spoke directly to any member of Congress. However, the sightings and shoot down last year seemed like the turning point. It either reaffirmed something they were already suspecting after Grusch came forward or it showed that they really don’t know what’s going on. And, to your comment, Grusch has mentioned adversaries possessing or researching UAP.

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Agencies have until the end of the current fiscal year to “review, identify, and organize each UAP record in its custody for disclosure to the public and transmission to the National Archives,” according to a memo sent Tuesday afternoon from Laurence Brewer, chief records officer for the U.S. Government, and Chris Naylor, NARA’s executive for research services, to federal agency records managers.

Curious how this will shape up and what the true timeline will be for documents to become public. Even if the National Archive receives documents this year, they may not necessarily be digitized or uploaded immediately to their site. I’d also expect a fight over classification for sensitive documents. But, we should at least start getting some new details this year and breadcrumbs leading to various events and programs.

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The National Archives has now published their memo online.

AC 13.2024

Date: February 6, 2024

Memorandum to Federal Records Management Contacts: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records

This AC memo is to inform agency records managers about the recent law on federal records related to unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).

Sections 1841-1843 of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (Public Law 118-31) require NARA to establish the ‘‘Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records Collection." The law also requires that by October 2024, each federal agency review, identify, and organize each UAP record in its custody for disclosure to the public and transmission to the National Archives.

As one of the first steps, NARA will provide agencies with guidance on what information will be needed to create and manage this collection. The law directs NARA to create a standard form or finding aid for agency use in identifying and reviewing records in the new UAP collection.

NARA will provide this guidance as soon as possible. A preview of the type of metadata or information NARA will need is agency name, file identifiers, document title, date, originator, from, to, location, classification level, restrictions, and number of pages. We will need to know what records can be publicly disclosed and what records must be protected, in whole or in part.

To expedite the collection process, agencies should begin identifying all unidentified anomalous phenomena records as required by the law. Agencies should begin planning on how to create metadata and review these records.

NARA will provide further guidance and communications as we develop processes to identify records responsive to the Act as well as instructions for how to transfer responsive records to the National Archives.

LAURENCE BREWER
Chief Records Officer for the U.S. Government

CHRIS NAYLOR
Executive for Research Services

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Last night I was exposed to CP and I am a victim of childhood sexual abuse so it really hit hard and made me instantly nauseous. I got a reply from the mods that my post was removed and the CSAM content was already gone by the time I made the report. It also said in the reply I got that If I made complaint I may be banned! WTH...

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I’m wondering why this hasn’t been addressed yet. There were posts last night asking about it that have since been removed. There should be some post explaining the incident and what actions are being taken. But, there definitely needs to be additional action taken to prevent this going forward.

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An interesting take on potentially some UAP sightings. Atmospheric plasma and possibly life forms have been speculated over the years, though the frequency of sightings make it difficult to study. It’s important to keep in mind that there won’t be just one answer to UAP. There will likely be a variety of causes even for UAP that share similar appearance and behavior. So, while this could explain some of the phenomenon, it could just be just one piece of the puzzle.

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Yeah. It’s fine to consider additional possibilities for some sightings, but people will say this wraps up the loose ends of the phenomenon and that we should move on. I don’t think this necessarily explains the foo fighter sightings, but I could see the potential for it to be a small subset of similar sightings.

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Great examples. Definitely shows the range of objects sighted and complexity of reviewing the topic. Even if these scientists are onto something, they’d have a lot of documenting and research ahead of them. Hopefully we’re breaking enough of the stigma to encourage more research on the subject. It’ll take a lot of research to understand the various types of sightings.

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Now multiply by another ten to get the tens of tens of thousands claimed. Not sure why people throw in hyperbole when making an argument.

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I’ve always been curious about the role of plasma and potentially atmospheric life forms as sightings. If this is a possibility, it would still only account for a portion of the phenomenon. A lot of things can be perceived as a ball of light, so there may be a need to further break down the description of sightings by other attributes or behaviors. We may never have all of the answers, but we’re bound to discover a lot of interesting things along the way.

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There could always be cloud coverage to obscure the view from the ground. Not to mention it’s a matter of timing and looking in the right direction to catch something like this.

Starlink definitely makes these sightings difficult to assess. There have been enough in orbit that pilots should be accustomed to seeing them. But, that’s not to say plenty have yet to experience them.

The same conditions that cause Starlink to flare could apply to other objects in the same space. Hopefully pilots start documenting more specifics of where and when to rule out satellites.

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I’m excited to see more pilots reporting their sightings. Hopefully they also report to groups like Americans for Safe Aerospace and NUFORC. There’s clearly growing interest in the topic of UAP and there seems to be less stigma in discussing it.

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That would explain a lot of things. And if his behavior is typical for his kind, then I’d understand the government concealing them from us.

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Looks like water resistance training equipment.

Edit: Updated link. Thanks Otter!

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I was thrown off since it’s a weird place to be carrying one and typically used in pairs. They probably just grabbed some pool equipment and handed it to a character to add to the vacation feel of the scene.

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Thanks!

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Missed that. Good catch.

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Glad to help! It actually brought back memories of playing around with some at my grandma’s pool when I was a kid.

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I’m always open to hear both sides of the argument on UAP origins and the research that goes into it, but approach it with some respect. The article is filled with dismissive claims like Avi Loeb researching “some tiny blobs”, belittles statements from David Grusch by stating “But basically, we’re talking saucers.” and calls him “just this guy Grusch”. Nearly every paragraph has some childish, dismissive claims. For an article in the “Intelligencer” section of New York Mag, it reads like a middle school essay.

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This article does a good job of dismantling a lot of erroneous claims by Sean Kirkpatrick. There have recently been articles citing Kirkpatrick’s statements that Congress is being misled by a small group of UAP conspiracy theorists. I’ve seen a lot of people taking his word and bashing the current disclosure movement because it’s easier to dismiss this as people wrapped up in a fantasy. However, it’s clear that his statements are flawed and as such, regardless of intent, are harming public opinion of legitimate investigations.

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