JustZ

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JustZ,

Another lie.

You drop older stock bombs first so you don’t have to decommission them. Everyone knows that. Israel already has all the bombs it needs to turn all of Gaza and the West Bank into a sheet of glass a dozen times over. Wtf are you talking about Biden sent them the weapons? American policy as to Israel has everything to do with its posture as to Iran and fuck all to do with Israel’s posture as to Gaza, except that the West will not let Gaza or the West Bank fall into the hands of Iranian backed terrorists, i.e. Hamas.

JustZ,

It’s not her name, it’s that she panders to a base who would hate her if she used it. She’s a hypocrite.

JustZ,

Huh.

JustZ,

Biden spanked Trump once and he can do it again.

JustZ,

Or, it’s actually not.

JustZ,

Have you tried driving your neighbors to the polling place and before you get there telling them how the other candidate fed glass to your dog?

JustZ,

This post is fully accurate.

JustZ,

The bombs were already there. These are old bombs.

JustZ,

Lemmy is a bubble. Most people don’t give half a shit about a small town worth of people in some their world failed state run by terrorists.

JustZ,

There is a long tradition of bipartisan support for Israel and it’s because Israel generally shares democratic ideals.

JustZ,

Bud, there is no duty to send people free food. Humanitarian aid is a nice gesture. Stopping it isn’t a war crime. Like what are you even talking about?

JustZ,

Me too, no though Sihks were nice.

JustZ,

Iran.

JustZ,

They aren’t blocking all food shipments. This is false. Israel helped open three new desolinization plants since the war started. You got tricked.

JustZ,

This is not true. Line length varies, hundreds of trucks go through every day. Some are held up. Yeah there is active combat in Rafah, that crossing has been closed some lately. You cannot cherry pick a couple of things that were true on one or two occasions and pretend its representative of the entire thing.

Hey, maybe Gaza could use their airport or their waterport to import as much food as they want? Oh wait, they gave them to Hamas who turned them into instrumentalities for international terrorism.

Hey, maybe they could import whatever they want through Egypt. Oh wait, Egypt doesn’t want Hamas using their border to import weapons and fighters, either.

There is no amount of aid that Israel is obligated to provide that is the cause of any hunger in Gaza. If people in Gaza are hungry, they should look to their own leadership, who are fucking fat, well fed, Happy to have all the food they want while neighbors and families are food insecure.

The fact that they provide any food is what makes them the most moral Army in the world. Any other Army would have leveled Gaza and everyone in it 20 suicide bombings ago.

JustZ,

Personally, doesn’t sound like it. You’re defending Palestine, though. Where nobody ever gets prosecuted for war crimes at all. Instead, they are paid cash.

JustZ,

C’mon don’t kid. This is a footnote in history and will be remembered as little more than a local police matter. A war with Iran on the other hand, is going to kill 35,000 people by the hour, by the minute perhaps. Imagine how sad that’s going to be for you!

That’s the starfish I’m thinking about. Not you though. You have the one right in front of you that you’re talking about saving on the internet, not actually saving, and can’t see there is actually a starfish steamroller coming down the beach and the starfish you are tying to save are the ones that invited the steamroller to come.

JustZ,

Military courts don’t publish their docket. Courts martial are secret at least through sentencing.

The Military Advocate General says they’ve opened 70 criminal cases since the start of the war based on findings from hundreds of complaints. The Israeli attorney general confirmed that report.

idf.il/…/remarks-of-the-military-advocate-general…

www.ynetnews.com/article/hyw6f0wv0

Here’s an older article naming some individuals: en.idi.org.il/articles/12244

I’m not saying there are many, I agree they try to cover it up when they can get away with it. Way more than zero, though.

The preliminary ICJ opinion cited others too but I can’t put my finger on it right now, or of the 80 or so pages.

Hamas still giving their war criminals cash prizes.

JustZ, (edited )

That’s true. I do understand that. In my view, it is willful blindness. You cannot stick your head in the sand and claim ignorance.

The truth of the matter is that the only reason a particular family might not know is because so many other Palestinians are providing cover and support for Hamas.

Every family in Gaza may not know a particular commander, they still know the Hamas people from their neighborhood, know where there’s a tunnel shaft or two. With even slight cooperation, combined with Israeli intelligence, Hamas would already be gone and we’d be talking about a pretty tame reconstruction, instead we’re talking about a fire in a refugee camp, and a reconstruction that will could take a decade. That’s the moral hazard of starting a war, it has to end somehow.

JustZ,

I suppose if you think of it as some far off thing that might happen, yeah pretty shaky. Being a long term state sponsor of anti Jewish terrorism shows their commitment to wiping out Israel. It’s basically also all the talk about. They are true believers: they think they are ordained by God to control all Israeli land, that Jews should be removed from such lands by force, that when they find terrorism aimed at killing innocent Israeli people, that they are doing God’s work. In short, the war is already happening. It’s about keeping it contained.

I’m not even as concerned with the direct, hot war. Israel will wipe Iranian forced off the map within weeks, and they will certainly turn Tehran into a sheet of glass before they let Iranian troops march into Jerusalem.

I’m thinking about the 110,000,000 people that live in Iran and Israel, as well as the hundreds of millions of other people who live in surrounded states that are likely to collapse under the weight of the unprecedented refugee crisis which would result from another failed middle east state as large as Iran. And after Israel gets done defending itself, Iran will be a failed state.

Try to imagine one state after another throughout the Mediterranean Coast, throughout North Africa, down the eastern coast of Africa, South and central Asia. A lot of these countries are barely hanging on, how’s it going to be when they’re wave after wave of millions of refugees who all need food and water. 35,000 people could be dying every 8 minutes.

Yeah, maybe this a little bit speculative in the same way anything that hasn’t happened yet is a little bit speculative.

I think we take a little bit of precaution to try and avoid this, and that means we bolster Israel’s defensive posture as to Iran. And I don’t see how anyone could really get upset about that. Israel does not need anyone to bolster their defensive posture as far as Gaza or the West Bank is concerned. Do they make their own weapons in Israel. They do not need one us-made weapon to level all of Gaza and all of the West Bank. And they could do it within a day. The fact that not only have they not done so, they have managed to only kill 0.7% of the people in these areas over the course of 8 months. That’s why they have the right to claim they are the most moral Army in the world; any other country’s military would have leveled the place after about the third suicide bombing.

Like I get it, 35,000 people, half of them kids, it is awful. No, it is not okay. Israel can and must do more to limit civilian casualties. But it’s morally, practically, legally, emphatically less not okay than purposely weakening Israel’s posture as to Iran, to invite that catastrophe, because we got really sad about wildly exaggerated reports about how Israel is handling a local border dispute with a group of outlaws and their loyal supporters. Again, I know not all Palestinians are loyal Hamas supporters. It’s probably a hell of o9t more than 0.7%, though.

JustZ,

That’s you’re opinion. In fact it is my empathy for the hundreds of millions of people that will suffer for a war between Iran and Israel that is formative to my opinions on this. You actually do not give a fuck, in my view, because you seem content to sentence millions of people to live and die under religious terrorism. It is your opinion that is malformed and shortsighted.

JustZ, (edited )

I don’t support Netanyahu at all. He’s a maniac and he must be tossed from office. I have a lot of hope he will be soon.

South Africa’s complaint is dog shit. It features like 200 links to news articles as its proof. It’s anti semitic fan fiction. The only concern I had to the allegations is when did South Africa start doing Iran’s bidding?

I’m just ballparking here, but those 200 links describe the same maybe 50 events. Of those 50 events, 35 say right on their face they are unconfirmed reports, of the other 15, 12 are completely blown out of proportion and exaggerated, stories of snipers shooting unarmed kids and so forth, or that any person in North Gaza was killed without a warning, or even now in this thread, the lie that Israel target civilians when in fact they were targeting Hamas commanders, the other 3 are legit claims.

I’m not impressed by a handful of bone fide war crimes. It’s a war. Crimes are going to happen. Maybe try, I don’t know not starting a war? Especially if it’s one you cannot possibly win. One side is probably going to try and cover them up, and maybe if they can’t cover it up they will fire everyone involved and prosecute some of them. Not perfect, not even ideal.

The other side, though, guaranteed, is committing war crimes, on purpose, as part of an intentional strategy, and the perpetrators are given cash prizes, funded by the Iranian Immamate and the Qatari monarchy. Everytime they step out without a uniform, war crimes. Every indiscriminate rocket they launch at civilians, war crimes. Every hostage, war crime. Mass shooting, war crime. Do I need to tell you the suicide bombings are also war crimes?

Like wtf are you even talking about here?

If Israel cannot prove up their claims in court, that will convince me otherwise. I’m sure they’re going to have no trouble for virtually all of the most sensational claims against them.

JustZ,

Famine has been “imminent” since November, the reports of widespread famine are not credible. Aid has been flowing thanks to Israel since like week two. Give it a rest.

At any rate it is the leadership of Hamas that has led to any want of food in Gaza, and only through western charity that every person in Gaza didn’t starve to death fifty years ago.

99.3% of Palestinians haven’t died despite your sensational claims. You don’t think you’ve blown this out of proportion a tad? Maybe slightly overly emotional about it? Like what is this mass scale you’re talking about? Mass scale means a small town worth of people? On what planet?

JustZ,

Delusional mods deleting true information.

JustZ,

Okay yes and there are tunnels under those health facilities. How would you destroy the tunnels? Remember, you cannot use gas.

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