It recently struck me recently that a number of users mostly scroll the All feed. This came up in a conversation where people were discussing how their main usage of lemmy was to scroll All and then rely entirely on blocking to refine their feed....
while i don’t have any specific opinions about this that other people haven’t addressed, i just want to flag up something;
How this could be enforced? No voting from the All and/or Local feed. Seems easy and straight forward.
this seems unenforcable. as in, you can’t really tell where someone discovered a post from. yeah you can just remove the buttons from those views clientside and it’ll probably work for the majority of cases, but alternate clients or modifications to lemmy-ui can simply put the buttons back in (or in cases of unmaintained or differently opinionated clients, just not remove the buttons at all). the backend can’t really differentiate which view a vote comes from. federation especially can’t differentiate which view a vote comes from.
and nyaizes your text so all your "na"s end up "nya"s. western forks like firefish/iceshrimp/sharkey have that separate from the cat ears toggle but honestly why would you disable that?
this is how it starts. first you open one for your cat as a joke and next thing you know you’re going meow meow :3 nyaaa~~ at people online and suddenly social media starts makign sense
Surely that would be possible with Authorised Fetch, yet nobody mentions the possibility.
Not really (in practice, anyway). Authorized fetch without cooperation from the remote instance only works on a per-instance basis. If you have a mutual from an instance then every follower from that instance would see your theoratical “mutuals only” post, if the only access control you have is authorized fetch.
There are some people working on circles and other ways of limiting visibility more granularly than what we have, but those will have to be supported by both ends. You may be able to hack together a gigantic mentions only thread with double digits of people on there without modifying server code too much, but the UX there would be terrible enough for that to not be viable (and certain anti-spam functionality like hellthread MRFs may end up kicking in which prevent that from federating to instances that have those enabled (especially after the recent Japanese spam attacks))
[alt: “lebron james reportedly forgot to align his floor vertices” in the style of a clickbait instagram post. on the left is lebron james, crying, on the right is a screenshot from pannenkoek’s recent invisible walls video]
(vanilla) mastodon does not have markdown, and content from other instances (marked up or not) get transmitted as HTML over the wire (and the mastodon API serves sanitized HTML to apps).
mastodon forks like glitch, and clones of the mastodon API like those on pleroma/akkoma and iceshrimp do serve the markdown source AFAIK, but unless OP’s looking to… idk, support MFM (which, on a non-web app would be difficult) I don’t really see the point in that.
Look into opening an account on an Iceshrimp instance like fedia.social, or an Akkoma instance like pleroma.envs.net. Their APIs are an extension on top of the Mastodon APIs (and both support Markdown and should expose them to apps). Sharkey also has some Mastodon API compatibility but it’s quite broken and might require some odd workarounds to get stuff working.
That said, for rich text, parsing the HTML will be more than enough for nearly all cases.
nah, there are plenty of truth wannabes (freeze peach bigotry safe havens) that actively federate. just look at literally any competent server’s blocked instances list and you’ll see a few examples. there’s a reason why nobody* runs completely open federation
*: aside from people who’re friendly with that crowd ofc
From news, to shitposting, to memes, to more shitposting, Lemmy feels vibrant, active, lighthearted, fun and even powerful. Mastodon feels like a fucking funeral.
In my experience, once when you find your way into the correct circles the microblog-verse makes the “shitposting” of Lemmy look like r/memes. I do agree that discoverability could be better though, it took me 4-5 months before I got the hang of it. And now I barely check Lemmy despite my Lemmy account being older than my earliest microblog account (under this name, anyway).
One important thing is that your instance matters quite a bit more than here. Starting on a large general purpose instance (especially if it’s mastodon.social) and just following Large Accounts and Nobody Else like most people recommend for some reason is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Instead, get on a smaller interest-specific instance (rule of thumb: the weirder the domain the better your experience will be!) and follow the local timeline (and on good software, the bubble/recommended timelines). And post stuff/interact with people. Don’t be that one person that does nothing but boost news bots and occasionally butt into replies of people asking rhetorical questions they already know the answer for.
(Perhaps Lemmy is better at news or whatever, I wouldn’t know as I block all news communities I can find – I just don’t see the point as all the discussion around most news ends up predictable, unproductive (not that internet communities necessarily need to be “productive”), and unnecessarily angry)
Also in a world with usable™ Misskey forks and Akkoma I think the limitations of Mastodon the software are really starting to show, and I urge anyone who’s been disappointed in Mastodon to try other microblog software. (Quotes are already a thing if you know where to look! So are emoji reactions, because people have more emotions than :star:)
mastodon doesn’t “discover” akkoma content and won’t show anything unless you’re following a user from there, which kinda sucks.
I mean – that’s how all of them work. Even Lemmy. Unless your instance administrator joins relays (which have tradeoffs between privacy / effectiveness of blocking) your instance is only ever aware of posts from followed people (and reply threads followed people are involved in)
(also MUCH lighter on server resources, compared to most other twitter-like alternatives)
Mastodon is just unusually heavy, really. Even Misskey & forks are lighter than Masto on the server side (preferring being bloated on the client instead)
[id: the sharkey mascot but with the deal with it glasses, a giant blunt, you know i had to do it to them hands and lightning mcqueen crocs poorly edited on top]
I’m just throwing this out there but having the default sort incentivize comments seems like it’d highlight posts meant to cause flame wars… Is that what we want out of this platform?
What I’m more worried about are posts relating to news mainly. Where even if the immediate first level comments are fine, there are threads that get out of hand really quickly.
I agree that while posts inherently designed to be controversial may not benefit from Active considering the influences voting has (though me being on an instance that has downvotes disabled may be influencing my view here!), Active may make it significantly easier for an otherwise innocent post to devolve into a flame war.
firule (media.d.on-t.work)
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From news, to shitposting, to memes, to more shitposting, Lemmy feels vibrant, active, lighthearted, fun and even powerful. Mastodon feels like a fucking funeral.
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[id: the sharkey mascot but with the deal with it glasses, a giant blunt, you know i had to do it to them hands and lightning mcqueen crocs poorly edited on top]
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