Viking_Hippie

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Viking_Hippie,

I can’t see any Dems voting for the guy who fucked Biden’s agenda

Really? Because all of the people I’ve ever seen defending him were Democrats claiming that he was the least awful senator West Virginia would ever vote for.

Hell, even Biden himself gave Manchin the pen used to sign what was left of one of the bills after he’d hollowed out the carcass!

Viking_Hippie,

I’ve long since given up on the powers that be ever listening to sense on this one, but that doesn’t mean I don’t reserve the right to grumpily complain every time someone perpetuates it in my presence 🤷

Viking_Hippie,

That’s not even accurate either, since most if not all presidents have made changes to Cabinet officials and other key positions after being reelected.

Viking_Hippie,

Nope, but that’s a false analogy since the only part of the presidential “car” that’s always the same in the second (or third or fourth) term is the driver.

Some presidents have replaced what amounts to most of the motor and the body for their subsequent terms, making it the second car for that driver but not a different driver.

Viking_Hippie, (edited )

All you’ve done is try to argue that it makes perfect sense using false logic. If you think that’s you somehow “helping me” and not an argument, I agree that there’s no point in continuing.

Disagreement ≠ lack of knowledge or understanding.

Viking_Hippie,

I care about logic and things making sense.

Hundreds of millions of people perpetuating the same obvious mistake and even DEFENDING it using spurious arguments is how things such as the filibuster, carceral slavery, and Donald Trump are still inflicted on the world.

Viking_Hippie,

Nope, he was and if Biden fucks it up, he’ll still be the 44th president.

If it was once per term, Obama would be counted twice as well and FDR would be counted as FOUR presidents.

Viking_Hippie,

How do you decide which don’t?

Viking_Hippie,

Well congratulations on being a superior being who’s only ever annoyed by important things and has no pet peeves, I guess 🤷🙄

Viking_Hippie,

I know full well why it matters to me: because it’s stupid and I’m expected to go along with it as if it wasn’t.

Since when is that not enough reason to be annoyed by something?

Viking_Hippie,

Yeah, being annoyed by one stupid small thing doesn’t mean being annoyed by ALL stupid small things.

Humans tend to like and dislike specific things for their own reasons and none.

I’ve got news for you: trying to police what people are allowed to be annoyed about doesn’t do anything except give them one more thing to be annoyed about, namely a condescending asshole trying to cluelessly “educate” them.

Maybe try to find something nice to do with your time instead.

Viking_Hippie,

Which would be fair. The shade for running on being the least bad option twice, not the downvotes.

Viking_Hippie,

Time for the Frank Wilhoit quote:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition … There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

Viking_Hippie,

If I don’t put on a decent to good movie I’ve already seen several times AND brown noise (not to be confused with the theorized Brown Note), odds are I don’t fall asleep for several hours if at all.

Sleep advice and other such “lifehacks” are seldom very ADHD-friendly and can be borderline ableist at times.

Viking_Hippie,

Conceptually, a conservative presence in American politics is a good thing

Not really, no. The entire philosophy of conservatism is sticking to/going back to the old ways AKA standing in the way of progress. The US has plenty of THAT from the economic elite who want to keep calling the shots without politicians helping them.

Viking_Hippie,

Which is why I said in its current form, not so much

The current form isn’t even conservatism, it’s just full blown fascism.

Having a dissenting voice can at times help ensure whether or not you’re on the right track.

True in principle, but not when that dissenting voice drags you further in the wrong direction you were already heading, as is the case in a to party system where both parties are right of center and the one closest to the center is pathologically obsessed with compromise for the sake of compromise and the other one is ideologically opposed to ever compromising.

That’s why I said conceptually it’s good, or at least it can be.

I still disagree. The concept of an opposition party is good. The concept of a center right to right wing led party having an opposition party to the right and none to the left isn’t.

Viking_Hippie,

Return2ozma: provides tons of mainstream sources demonstrating actual things that objectively happened according to people who have no reason to make it up

This guy over here: “I still don’t believe your conspiracy theory” 🤦

Viking_Hippie,

It was the Hillary campaign’s decision to help elevate Trump to the nomination and give him as much media exposure as possible, thinking that it would make it easy for her to win.

It was also them that ran one of the worst presidential campaigns in history, including telling people not to vote for her and neglecting to campaign in key swing states out of pure arrogant hubris.

Inescapable conclusion to anyone who isn’t a Hillary stan or otherwise a blind Dem party loyalist:

Hillary and her campaign are more culpable for Trump infesting the white house than anyone else outside of the far right echo chamber and foreign agents.

Viking_Hippie,

looks at Biden’s poll numbers in states he can’t afford to lose and stubborn insistence on not changing the unpopular course of action that caused them

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b94cf2bd-5fa9-4f8c-8092-8f933d199131.jpeg

Viking_Hippie, (edited )

Yes. Her campaign elevated him to the nomination and ran one of the worst presidential campaigns in history, alienating tens of millions and leading to one of the lowest voter participations in presidential election history.

If they hadn’t done both, there’s no way that he’d ever had come within cheating distance of the white house.

Viking_Hippie,

None of those sources substantiate why they would want him to win.

Nobody’s saying that the Hillary campaign wanted Trump to be president. As for why they wanted him to be the nominee, there’s no way that none of the sources say why.

Especially since the Dem party leadership apparently learned nothing and are still using the same pied piper strategy to support far right candidates in Republican primaries for the exact same reason.

Viking_Hippie,

Biden is number 46

Nope, he’s number 45. The only way he’s number 46 is by counting Cleveland twice, which is nonsense.

Viking_Hippie,

There’s tons of disinformation being spewed onto social media and all other online platforms leading up to an election.

That disinformation in the form of paid ads and engagement-driving viral posts is officially against the rules everywhere, but if the rules aren’t enforced, they’re meaningless.

TL;DR: less effective enforcement against disinformation = more profits for the platforms

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