commie

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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

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commie,

that image is based on poore-nemecek 2018 which has terrible methodology.

commie,

the sources on that paper are labyrinthine, but i recall pulling up the water use for cattle out of it, and they attributed all of the water used in the production of all the food given to cattle to the production of the cattle, which might make sense if you don’t think about it for even a few seconds more. we know that there are things that we grow that we use, and then discard other parts. maybe crop “seconds”; that is things that we grew thinking we would eat it but we pulled it to early or too late or mashed it up pretty bad during harvest or whatever. we are actually conserving water use by feeding these things to cattle, but it isn’t credited to cattle, it’s counted against their total water use.

that was just the water use for california dairy cattle. if even 10% of the study is done this sloppily, how much do you trust that study?

commie,

basically all beef cattle graze for the first year or so.

commie,

Nutritionfacts is a pseudoscience site.

thank you

commie,

i’d say husbandry then harvesting. i think most of the people who make our food would, too.

commie,

for people who believe in rights, most of them don’t believe animals have any. i don’t believe in rights at all, so this line of argument is falling pretty flat.

commie,

this is a fairy tale.

commie,

no, i don’t

commie,

i don’t presume to tell others what they need. i’m only saying you dont know any more than i what anyone needs.

commie,

no one is torturing animals.

commie,

we could set up an experiment to try to disprove gravity. what is the experiment you propose to try to disprove your story?

commie,

“supply and demand” is a theory about price discovery, but it amounts to an empty tautology under a critical rationalist inquiry.

commie,

if everyone jumps at the same moment, we would all experience an impact, but the earth would keep spinning with no change.

commie,

you’re lying about what i do.

commie,

farmers have free will, and decide for themselves what to do.

commie,

sure. that’s not voting though.

commie,

you use imprecise language to paint with a broad brush. specific people are involved in agriculture. specific people finance it. most people are neither.

commie,

objecting to lies is not the same as telling a story of a happy paradise. you are strawmanning them.

commie,

the term is certainly used there, but it’s not in the same context. i don’t think you know this topic well enough to engage on it.

commie,

if more animals are killed, then being vegan doesn’t stop animals from being killed. qed

commie,

feel free to ask her about it

info@melaniejoy.org

commie,

she’s the authority on what she believes. how else would you know?

commie,

to be clear, being vegan hasn’t stopped more animals from being killed year-over-year every year since the vegan society was founded.

commie,

it’s a nice story to tell, but it doesn’t have any empirical value.

commie,

for some people this might be true. for others, no.

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