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fediverse_report,

Small detail that I think is actually quite meaningful:

The article is written by editor-in-chief Nilay Patel. Nilay does not usually write a whole lot of articles, as he’s the boss, and the articles he writes are often more commentary (like the famous ‘welcome to hell’ article for Elon, or his running joke on Brother printers). Within The Verge its usually more David Pierce as a true fediverse believer than Nilay.

Futhermore, earlier this week Nilay posted on Threads a response to Ghost’s survey about federation: “Curious how you approach federation for paid newsletters! (Because we want to figure that out too)” www.threads.net/

fediverse_report,

The value is in the granular way that you can connect communities. You’re totally right that there are a lot of cases where there are good reasons not to connect communities. That goes across instance borders (like you said, Beehaw and Hexbear would preferably not connect communities), but even for instances that are similar, not all communities need to be connected. In the current example of the Social Hub forum and the NodeBB development forum, only 2 communities (categories) are connected, and the rest is not.

fediverse_report,

Thanks! And yeah, last few weeks have gotten wayy busier with news, its quite noticeable to me. I’m especially excited that there is lots of news outside of the microblogging sphere as well, that part is the most interesting part of the fediverse to me

(mentions to my indieweb account are still broken for some reason, no idea why haha)

fediverse_report,

yeah its a big deal because of the spillover effort on how much easier this makes conversations with other gov officials about setting up a fedi server. I’m somewhat involved in this process at this point, and now being able to say that ‘biden is on the fediverse’ really impacts lobbying for the fediverse more broadly

fediverse_report,

i dunno, never used really used friendica much. reply didnt get send back to friendica tho

fediverse_report,

do you mean something like vocata? codeberg.org/Vocata/vocata

think that would be super valuable to have for sure, but my non-dev vibes say that its probably above a one-man project, so might be hard to pull off?

maegul, to test
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Test again

@test

fediverse_report,

now this thing is just fucking with me lmao. how??? im so confused. i tried it on another account on mastodon.nl as well, plus I can find lemmy.ml posts if i search for them from indieweb.social, so it does not seem like the instances are defederated

fediverse_report,

yeah that makes sense. thanks a lot of testing with me tho, much appreciated!

oh, final check out of interest: did this comment made from lemmy show up in your hachyderm notifications at least?

fediverse_report,

huh, i wouldnt have expected that actually, but at least its nice that something works

maegul, to test
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Test

@test

fediverse_report,

wuut, how does it work for you

Whenever the AT protocol of BlueSky is set for others to deploy, won't it have similar problems as ActivityPub instances?

I feel like I may be missing something when it comes to BlueSky, or maybe both I and those trying it out are but in different ways. My understanding is that BlueSky is currently like the Mastodon Social instance is for Mastodon but of the AT Protocol under development, with the long term aim being that once their protocol is...

fediverse_report,

I actually set out to answer this question in a blog post, but it turns out that the answer is quite complicated, so I have to write an entire series about it. First part I published this week, which explains all the different components that make up the Bluesky network:

fediversereport.com/how-bluesky-works-the-network…

I don’t think that they’ll run into the exact same problems that AP-fedi has, as the design decisions are often made specifically to avoid some of these. However, their design decisions create new sets of problems for the network, which I’ll get into later

fediverse_report,

Heya! Good answers earlier by you!

Yeah I think I’ll have to get into that, but I’m starting to run into the limit of not being a programmer myself, and information is pretty scarce on ATproto. The article differs from their own federation architecture description from earlier in the year, simply because its outdated and noone has formally written down the new info, so that was a bit of a struggle haha blueskyweb.xyz/…/5-5-2023-federation-architecture

At any rate, the PDS’s are amenable for sure. Robin Berjon is the furthest along with thinking here, with his AP over AT piece: berjon.com/ap-at/ Responses I’ve seen havent suggested its technically impossible, but probably difficult for reasons that I tuned out of reading because I didnt understand :D

Beyond that, people keep talking about the lexicon and how that at is core is also versatile; similar to how fedi has Mastodon’s type=Note that everyone uses, even though you can create any ‘type’ you want. I’m pretty sure that nobody has done that yet tho.

fediverse_report,

Oh thats an interesting question! I’m assuming you are talking about the UX/UI of instance selection?

And thats not something I have written about (neither does another article pop into my mind either sadly), but interesting idea for an article for sure to write about

fediverse_report,

they’re working on a new project that will supersede audon, apparently firefish.social/notes/9j5dw744p5qnqwxp

fediverse_report,

check out fediview.com, it sorts your personal mastodon home timeline via an algorithm that you can pick.

fediverse_report,

yeah its great to have more managed hosting options. The UX is also really well done, which is great and something I dont see to often in these places. Need to get some time next few days to start up a new lemmy project with this

fediverse_report,

I’m very curious as to what people’s view on etiquette is regarding submitting your own content. I write a weekly newsletter about the fediverse which is pretty relevant to this community for example. But I’m also quite aware of reddiquette thats pretty hesitant on submitting your own stuff, as it can get spammy really fast. Would love to hear.

fediverse_report,

ha yeah I remember that, that was fun.

To riff on this a little bit further: its also visible in how little attention in the gazillion conversations about Threads is paid to the fact that the entirety of the EU cannot even access it yet due to the new DMA and DSA.

Or one of the articles I wrote that got relatively low traction, that was specificially about how all of the Nordic countries got an official recommendation to use ActivityPub for their governmental communications. I dont mind that some articles get less traction than others, but it does stand out when you consider how impactful such things are for the long term structure of the fediverse. Lots of EU governments are now talking about needing sovereign public digital spaces, and are actively looking how ActivityPub can help with that. And that matters way more than whatever Elons latest shenanigans are.

fediverse_report,

Yeah, I think theres quite a few reasons to be hopeful. Also why I personally am not very interested in comparisons to XMPP and EEE. To me, that refers to a different time on the internet, where corporations where way more interested in fighting an opensource threat. But times have changed, and for Big Tech, it seems to me they are way more worried about regulations than about opensource competitors.

Not to say that this automatically means that the fediverse will be a success, not at all, this shit is hard. But to properly judge what challenges await the fediverse, I think its more fruitful to look at what Big Tech is concerned by, and what governments are thinking about. And I see very little talk about EEE from those actors. Instead, its mainly focused on regulations, privacy, and sovereign power.

fediverse_report,

haha well think it mostly worked :D

and thanks for the shoutout! I do need to update my bio and get proper accounts. For now just testing out the water a little bit, havent really fully decided on which server I want to pick. reason Im replying with 2 accounts is that federation between kbin.social and lemmy.ml specifically is still broken, couldnt even see your reply. Not sure how to approach that yet

fediverse_report,

kbin.social/…/lemmy-ml-is-no-longer-shadowbanning…

seems like a side effect of lemmy devs being overloaded with info and messages getting on a long backlog

fediverse_report,

Seems more like youre describing Nostr than ActivityPub

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