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A lot of people don't know the difference between capitalism and ... having markets and shopping and little coops and companies in non-super-essential economic sectors that operate independently.

Markets existed before capitalism and will exist after.

futurebird,
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@floatybirb @TruthSandwich

Yeah capitalism is fine as long as you have enough strikes and protests to keep those in power convinced that they can only take but so much.

IDK. it's a little exhausting don't you think? between that and the financial crashes it's more like a controlled fall than flying.

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @floatybirb

Creation... or concentration?

Research, science and invention create wealth, along side labor. I don't see how owning capital creates wealth at all.

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich

"Look at the UK's NHS failure."

Why is it so popular? Why do people in the UK live longer?

futurebird,
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@NoTwit @TruthSandwich

I found this one amusing. ;)

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @SoftwareTheron @floatybirb

And yet... we can agree that:

  1. We have capitalism in the US and people are being screwed over.
  2. Capitalism without the right guard rails and restrictions will generally screw people over.

?

Why is it important to defend the concept of capitalism?

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @floatybirb

Right now I'd simply take functional regulatory bodies, libraries, public schools and public colleges and investment in pre-natal health care as a start.

Or even skip that and just raise the social security cap and restore the old corporate tax rates.

None of this is radical or an alternative to capitalism- but I'd rather see that problem tackled on NOT empty stomaches.

futurebird, (edited )
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@TruthSandwich @SoftwareTheron @floatybirb

Assuming capitalism is inevitable, unchangeable and the best we can do is just as bad. You are eliminating a whole universe of solutions because you've bought in to the propaganda from people who benefit from the current system -- who are just trying to preserve their disruptive pockets of wealth.

Wealth is a bad way to allocate that much power.

futurebird,
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@floatybirb @TruthSandwich

If we adjusted how corporate charters work the first one could be do-able. And it's possible to have a mixed economy of private, public and worker-owned companies-- which could be interesting.

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @floatybirb

"Oh, look, you stooped to insult and got blocked. Shocking."

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @bitpickup @CStamp @floatybirb

You think co-ops aren't anti-capitalist.

Have you tried running one in the US?

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @floatybirb

I wasn't blocking you I was just repeating what you said to someone else earlier.

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @floatybirb

So is not owning a car.

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @bitpickup @CStamp @floatybirb

You are the one saying the capitalist country where people are screwed over isn't an example of capitalism screwing people over.

futurebird,
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@jrm4 @TruthSandwich @SoftwareTheron @floatybirb

Making people drop the word is the point of this muddling games.

It's a useful word.

futurebird,
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@TruthSandwich @joesabin @SoftwareTheron @floatybirb

Are you concerned those people people are reading my posts?

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