The use case is basically so that all my family members we can check that “John has an old laptop collecting dust” or “Mary has this specific tool that I’d love to use for my current project”....
Not sure why you’re digging this hole, but okay… You claim to have 40 years experience, a retired software dev… BASIC has little relevance to the article OP posted… It doesn’t make much sense to post a hello world loop, further you can search for this loop and find thousand of syntax accurate examples, which any engineer would do normally, due to the PTSD of posting on public forums and being ripped to shreds for the most minor of typo…
Why would you claim to run two lines through a compiler to check it? I mean there are endless interpreters and plenty of IDEs that would have caught the mistake as well.
BASIC is a high level educational language to promote CS in the 80s and 90s, What does posting this here, and then misusing semi-colons, do to give you any credibility. Why not Lisp, COBOL or Fortran? Is it because your trying to steal credibility like Microsoft did? Make it make sense!
And finally what in the world is this CC signature. Your on Lemmy, the not-for-profit decentralized forum. Creative Commons licensing is for scenarios that involve commerce. Everything anyone posts here is free to use because there really is no way to enforce copyright on content where the owner cannot be identified and no single entity owns the federation. Unless Cosmic Cleric is your legal name…
Yikes, ok I can buy the shit posting. I think it’s fair to say it didn’t go over well. Most of the Lemmy user base is your age, who remember the dial-up days of the Internets. Most of us grew up with the Trash 80 and C64s and Apples in the classroom, which is why we are drawn to the Fediverse. So don’t be surprised when you get brigaded over a BASIC syntax error, because from our perspective it came across like a 22 year old who was pretending to know what the old days were like, and making an irrelevant comment on a post about a rather tragic part of computing history. Fair enough, we done.
My response to the syntax error was a joke. Which is why it’s formatted as a console log error. I didn’t think much of it, other than I didn’t understand why it was relevant to OPs post. Then he responded to my comment with some sillyness about running it through a compiler, which further didn’t make sense. But I was like whatever… It was when he started saying that he’s too old to remember syntax and how hes been programming for forty years and all this reference his experience with old tech. It smelled of some juvenile attempt to pretend to be something he’s not. Which is why I commented about this not being the place to do that because Lemmy has a large population of folks that could easily see through this. At this point I was still pretty passive and didn’t think much of it.
It’s when he wrote the whole I’m too old to remember syntax from all the programming hes been doing for 40 years since his days on blah blah. This is when I called him out.
So he responds about his tough day, and how it was just a shit post joke and I said fine, fair enough, we all have bad days. I was willing to put it to bed and call it.
Finally he writes this wall of text about, despite being on the internet since it inception, how people on Lemmy are being so mean to him and how I could just think more positively and on and on. Yeah I over reacted to improper syntax, that’s it…
Again, I am not calling him out for being bad at programming. It’s not bad to make a mistake in code, AT ALL. The very best programmer make syntax errors all the time. That’s just part of it. I am calling him out for trying to justify a comment that has no relevance to the post, that was only made to draw attention to himself, when multiple people called out the error he goes into a long deflection about how he has all this experience and makes excuses and tries to make it seem like he was victimized.
This is a small community and he does this often in other posts. It gets tiring seeing this nonsense, which I didn’t say anything about until after started with all the “back in my day” stuff. I don’t think it’s an over reaction to try to humble someone who struggles with admitting fault, (not about programming, but that he is capable of making a mistake, in any context). It’s a lesson we all should learn, especially someone who is over forty. If this makes me insane, then so be it.
Correct, people comment bad jokes all the time. This is completely irrelevant as I didn’t call him out for the bad joke. I made a bad joke in response to his bad joke.
I called him out when a number of people corrected his bad joke (including down voting him), and he tried to justify the bad joke with more bad jokes and deflections about how he just couldn’t remember syntax and he has all this experience. It’s a problem he has with admitting fault, not about his joke, but how in making the “joke” he tried to prove to people he didn’t really make a mistake.
He did this on another post the same day when he claimed a link was paywalled. It wasn’t, multiple people said it wasn’t, and he insisted it was for him, only to later, after multiple back and fourths say that he has bad eyes and that the site needs to be made better. I bring this up, because he even brought it up here.
So again, I have no issue with bad jokes, I have no issues with bad programming. I have an issue with people who want to pretend like they are perfect and it’s everyone else who is at fault.
He said he ran it through compiler and it didn’t complain (which he later claimed was sarcasm), then he said he couldn’t remember the syntax because of all the different languages he used over the past forty years “That’s how long I’ve been programming, so long that I can’t even remember the syntax anymore.” and then went on a long rant about all the computers he used as a kid.
He didn’t admit the mistake on the paywall he said “Young webpage developers designing UI for younger aged eyes, and not thinking that when people get older they increase the font size of everything on their device so they can see still, which affects the layout of everything being displayed.”
He never once said he was wrong in fact he double down on it with “I’m not going to change my original comment, and I still stand by it. If they obfuscate the way of closing the pop-ups by making the close button so small and insignificant compared to the other likewise texting around it, to me that still paywalling, as they’re trying to trick people into signing up for an account to read the article.”
Again, I am not worried about the mistakes. He also certainly doesn’t need to apologize. A simple acknowledgement without deflecting into some long excuse as to why it’s not his fault or he’s just so experienced that he got the details mixed up would be fine. Also again, if this was a one off example, I wouldn’t have said anything, it’s a trend I’ve seen him do a few times on a few different posts and it rubbed me the wrong way so I decided to call him out on it, like many others have also done.
You’re correct, it is very reasonable for someone not remember details about a language that was used in schools for education decades ago, that he himself said he played with as a kid, as I have done myself. AGAIN it’s not that he didn’t remember, it’s that anyone who has worked as a programmer for decades, and I mean without exception, would ever in any circumstance post that code from memory. Because anyone who has done any coding knows you only remember syntax when you have been practicing in it daily. No one remembers the syntax to BASIC, it isn’t a useful language. You would just search for “hello world” loop and you would find endless examples you could copy pasta. Which he himself says he likes to do with that creative commons nonsense he tags to every post.
Sure pop-ups suck. Sure interface design needs to be better, it’s not the point. The point is he claimed that the site was paywalled, he was wrong, that’s okay. He was told by multiple people he was wrong, including one person who went as far as to post a screenshot. Even after all that effort from the community he doesn’t just say “ah my mistake, I see it now”, he goes into an excuse of bad UI design, even though no one else had the problem. It simple, just say you made a mistake without making excuses. Really easy to do, and way less effort than this whole deflection thing he does.
He’s a shit poster, who bullshits people because he doesn’t want to be wrong. I am under no illusion anything will change with this guy. His shitty behavior continues today just as it has in the past. I just made the mistake of saying something about it.
No, yet again, I am saying when he was corrected and down voted by multiple people he didn’t just acknowledge his mistake, he went on to try to pretend to be something he is not, and try to save face by exaggerating and deflecting. He is not concerned with anything but being right.
He is wasting peoples time who have voluntarily engaged with him. He is not contributing to the discussion and making flippant lazy comments.
I can spend my time how I choose and if I choose to have a discussion about his comments then that’s my decision. I have not bullied anyone, I just made two comments about this to him. Haven’t engaged with him since.
However you have said I am over reacting, being stupid and now bullying, because of my opinion of someone’s behavior. All the while you dismiss my opinion, disregard my points and apologize for his behavior like his mother. If it’s no big deal why are you still talking about this. You’re the only person still concerned. This ended two days ago for me.
I see what you mean now. I should just ignore it. I shouldn’t have called him out. He did nothing wrong. In fact he made the post more entertaining and his references were really fun. I was demanding him to do things this whole time and that was wrong of me.
I was so mad he didn’t research his joke, because you know jokes don’t really need to make sense. I was being silly. You were right this whole time. Thanks for setting me straight over these last couple of days. I’m so stupid.
It seems like the FOSS community is continuing to grow, and FOSS apps keep getting better (Immich reallh blew my mind recently), which is a big win 😎 but there are still many apps I use that I would kill for an open source alternative. I am curious what you guys think? Are there any apps you’d love alternatives for?
Correct me if I’m wrong but Matrix and it’s bridges are open source and the FOSS version of Beeper. Beeper just took it, closed sourced it and made it convenient for normies to use…
This is just political theater to make it seem like the Governor is doing something. Colombia, and much of Latin America, has a much larger issue being extremely wealthy countries with vastly poor populations.
These countries are being kept this way purposely so that they can be exploited by much wealthier nations(US, Spain, France, Netherlands, India). This breeds a culture of self regulation and minimal government intervention, riddled with corruption and a populace left to their own devices.
Prostitution in the touristic areas hasn’t been stopped at all, just pushed a little underground while the cops look the other way, because they are also customers.
Fixing this problem requires something that won’t occur in our lifetimes. Which is unfortunate as Colombia is one of the most beautiful and magical places on earth. Antioquia specifically is such an amazing place and the Paisa people are so unique and kind. Really beautiful when isolated cultures can survive this long.
The Paisa people were isolated in the Andes mountains for a long time as it was difficult for the Spanish to access when it was part of Gran Colombia. The culture around Medellin and the coffee triangle is different the rest of country and kind of similar to the Southern hospitality in the US. Everyone is so willing to talk to you and invite you to gatherings even if you’re a stranger.
They are no longer isolated but their culture persists. I just hope all the tourism doesn’t spoil it.
I would not call a region with a capital city that was founded in the 16 hundreds isolated.
Are you talking about the current capital of Medellin (founded 1717) or the original capital Santa Fe de Antioquia (founded 1541). Santa Fe sits on the Cauca river which was the only way the Spanish were able to make it that far into the mountains. It would take them months to travel to places like Medellin, which is why it was isolated.
Mestizo is just the spanish word for mixed person and fits all of Latin America as there are very few indigenous groups left.
I am using isolation in the standard meaning. To mean separated. I do not mean uncontacted. Sure uncontacted tribes are isolated, but so where the Paisas. What you may be missing is people didn’t just take a day trip into this region. The Spanish empire sent groups of people with the wealth and resources of a nation state, forcibly using indigenous slave labor to travel deep into the Andes. Once they arrived, it was rare that people left.
The only way to get close was to use the rivers with human powered boats. Then you had to use established trails or cut through extremely dense dangerous forest. This kind of work took years to accomplish and was the result of generations of people slowly building up a colonized society at the will of the Spanish Monarchy. This is why most of the larger towns and cities in south weren’t established until the 19th century.
I was in Medellin and Jericó two weeks ago. The isolation is talked about in the museums and is well established fact. I just mean separated not unreachable.
Francis Ford Coppola, director of the Godfather trilogy and Apocalypse Now, has been planning his next movie, Megalopolis, since 1979. The story, a sci-fi thriller about an architect who wants to rebuild New York City as a utopia following a devastating incident, has been evolving over decades, and anyone asked about it seemed...
The things that makes me sad is the only way something like this can get made in the studios is if the names attached are guaranteed to draw a crowd. Everything else is safe and calculated.
40 years ago “Hollywood” started to pretend that it was making pencils and not art. That every production had to be a safe sure thing. Let’s all make the McDonald’s hamburger of movies just about every time, we’ll let you take a chance if you break a billion in profit but otherwise we want vanilla predictable serotonin juicers and nothing else…
I won’t see anything anymore unless it has something new to offer. Otherwise they can all fuck off!
Good point, but it even solidifies what I am saying even more. Even with everything Coppola has done he still had to put up his own money, I mean he did this before with Apocalypse Now and had to mortgage his house.
Despite running Zoetrope since the early 70s and making a long string of commercial successes, no one wants to front the money.
Thing is he will probably make more on the backend anyway since he is taking all the risk and once it’s done he’ll have no trouble finding distribution. Hell, he’ll could probably self distribute and make insane amounts of money.
Hollywood is on a slow track to irrelevance just like TV. Who would have thought that Coppolas famous “fat girl in Ohio” statement would be about himself…
I read part of the article and thought I finished because on mobile it’s broken up by a bunch of advertisements. I missed some details but my point still stands. I am speaking less about this specific project and more about the state of the industry and how it has been diluted.
Luna is the Latin word for moon. It’s not the official name in English. It’s just called “Moon” in English, just like the sun is just called “Sun” despite being many other words in other languages.
Because there is just one of them it’s not really necessary to give it a unique name, but there are lots of options in Latin, Greek and other languages if you want to get fancy.
I’m concerned about the privacy implications of DNA testing services like 23andMe or AncestryDNA. What are the potential risks of sharing our genetic data with those companies, and are there any privacy-focused alternatives available?
It doesn’t matter if you use a service or not. Someone in your family most likely has DNA on file, either through voluntary submission, like 23andme, or through law enforcement, military government interactions that require submission. Once a family member is on file, it’s easy to ID you. Many crimes have been solved this way. Point being, doesn’t even matter if you try to keep private, if a nation state or three letter agency wants you, you done. If you’re worried about some company having your data just don’t participate in any of them… pretty much all you can do currently.
When I was 13 years old I did something very wrong. Back in the day in my middle school was fucked up trend: slaping girl’s asses. I didn’t have the courage to do it myself so when we had family reunion I decided to practice with my 5 years old cousin. When I was playing with her I slightly spanked her butt over the clothes...
Exactly this. All people do things that can be considered wrong. The difference between good and bad people is the good ones realize it, and change their behavior. This is what it is to be human.
Thinking of building a database of "stuff" that I have at home + some other family households. Multiple accounts with private and shared inventories.
The use case is basically so that all my family members we can check that “John has an old laptop collecting dust” or “Mary has this specific tool that I’d love to use for my current project”....
Fifty Years of the Personal Computer Operating System (computerhistory.org)
What apps would you love to have open-source alternatives for?
It seems like the FOSS community is continuing to grow, and FOSS apps keep getting better (Immich reallh blew my mind recently), which is a big win 😎 but there are still many apps I use that I would kill for an open source alternative. I am curious what you guys think? Are there any apps you’d love alternatives for?
Colombia's Medellín declares war on sex tourism after US citizen found with two little girls at a hotel (english.elpais.com)
iPod with custom shell, new screen, 512gb SSD, and a 30 day battery (lemm.ee)
Francis Ford Coppola's Impossible New Sci-Fi Movie is Even Weirder Than We Thought (www.inverse.com)
Francis Ford Coppola, director of the Godfather trilogy and Apocalypse Now, has been planning his next movie, Megalopolis, since 1979. The story, a sci-fi thriller about an architect who wants to rebuild New York City as a utopia following a devastating incident, has been evolving over decades, and anyone asked about it seemed...
We should name the moon. Most people don't call their pets "dog" or "cat".
Arma Reforger "Tiny Wars" (www.youtube.com)
What are the risks of sharing DNA?
I’m concerned about the privacy implications of DNA testing services like 23andMe or AncestryDNA. What are the potential risks of sharing our genetic data with those companies, and are there any privacy-focused alternatives available?
18+ Am I a disgusting person?
When I was 13 years old I did something very wrong. Back in the day in my middle school was fucked up trend: slaping girl’s asses. I didn’t have the courage to do it myself so when we had family reunion I decided to practice with my 5 years old cousin. When I was playing with her I slightly spanked her butt over the clothes...
VPS provider Vultr Claims Rights to Sell Your Data & Programs (youtu.be)