tobor

tobor, 10 months ago

Seems like they’re just trying to get their fingers in the pie, it’s what they always do regardless of whether they know it will work or not.

tobor, 10 months ago

It’s also a heck of a lot cheaper than creating a legless zombie universe. Shareholders are probably drooling at the potential of returning to the old sabatoge playbook

tobor, 10 months ago

Yes! Give me Zelda Tears of the Kingdom 1.1.1 again. For… not item duping reasons

tobor, 10 months ago

Personally I’ll support instances that choose to tell Zuckybags to fuck right off, and I think the fediverse is pretty well set up to be able to do that.

But I guess the bigger question how is how we protect our information, since it seems like everything that happens here is pretty wide open.

The big companies will all come for places like this and trawl for “genuine human input” to feed their AI cashbabies, and what we create has value. Maybe even the shitposts. So how do we protect that?

tobor, 10 months ago

The difference is that Reddit was looking to IPO off that data, here that won’t happen. We were the product there.

If you’re ok with your data being used, maybe there’s a way to opt into that. But I would rather it be something data trawlers had to forcibly ask first rather than just stealing it and then saying “oopsies”

tobor, 10 months ago

Just to rag on the Bob Ross metaphor, because I absolutely love him, he might not have minded if I followed along with his paintings, but he was absolutely selling some pthalo blue (which is not a bad thing its own right) and what happened to him after he died was absolutely terrible in terms of monetisation without his permission.

I guess this is all sorta tangential to the main thread here, but I think we should start seeing our information in terms of actual value, and even if we choose to contribute to an open platform like this (which I absolutely support) how much is that actually worth.

Kinda like if you work pro bono, it’s still good to keep a record of what your billable amount would have been.

Zuck and co have a vested interest in making us think that what we provide is worthless

tobor, 10 months ago

Hey I just wanted to say first of all, this has been great discussion, I really appreciate it. I guess it all goes back to the original purpose of the internet, which was never meant to be turned into some heavily monetized cash cow for a handful of companies. Open source has created some amazing tools, and I’m a big fan of things like GNU and cc licenses. For me, individuals using whatever I write as a tool is no problem at all. But when it comes to a big company that just wants to scrape data for a LLM, that’s not the same.

This is wild thinking, but like say if they wanted to scrape the lemmyverse, ok, but they had to pay so we could maintain servers etc. We’d all benefit.

tobor, 10 months ago

They don’t hate them at all! They just steal their ideas

tobor, 10 months ago

This and Chocolate Rain, I guess that’s two times he’s made an impression on my life now

tobor, 10 months ago

Passive aggressively dismissive of standard relationships

Whose standard?

tobor, 10 months ago

Human psychology doesn’t have a standard.

Monogamy is just one of a wide range of social arrangements that have existed all throughout human history, and continue to exist.

see: distribution of monogamy

Personally, I’ve been in multiple partner relationships. Are they perfect? No, absolutely not. But neither were some of the monogamous relationships I’ve been in.

I think the comic is a little off too, and I agree with you about how it portrays cheating, but it doesn’t make sense to shit on all forms of relationship that you don’t agree with.

tobor, 10 months ago

Wow, there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time, I think that just unlocked a core memory for me. While I didn’t use del.icio.us heavily, I did feel like there was something super useful about it. In a way it felt way more web 2.0 than Facebook ever did, a true utility.

tobor, 10 months ago

The hit piece Nilay did on Elon was fucking savage and one of the best things I’ve ever read on that site

tobor, 11 months ago

misandry and feminism are two totally different things

tobor, 11 months ago

This is off topic, but I love that I'm already finding links to concepts I didn't know about. It's a good sign that using the fediverse as an alternative to Reddit will actually work!

tobor, 11 months ago

I'm one of 'em, it's been great so far!

tobor, 11 months ago

I never thought about it like that, but you're right on, the data quality matters. I saw discussion on another board how all of the Reddit data that we use in our searches might become extremely valuable since was majority genuine human.

Of course, obligatory fuck u/spez for his handling of what we all created, but there's no reason we can't do it again here.

tobor, 11 months ago

It's a difficult thing to measure, since it won't necessarily be a leap from just one platform to another.

I saw a meme on Tumblr about redditors remembering they had "dual Tumblr citizenship" all along. A lot of people are exploring a bunch of different options simultaneously (me included) and that's pretty great.

But yeah, we'll figure it out I hope!

tobor, 11 months ago

They'll keep moving goalposts. It's in their best interest to downplay as much as possible, and unfortunately it's very easy to the misrepresent numbers.

tobor, 11 months ago

I feel like the key thing with Reddit was once you found your key smaller subs and turn off the r/all dumpster fire it could be a pretty chill place.

Of course... that's all going out the window once the 3rd party apps that made it easier to do so get shut down.

So yeah, I think it's totally possible if the fediverse allows us to be selective in what we want to see.

tobor, 11 months ago

No worries, thanks for going ahead and making it!