It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....
Through constant vigilance, anyways. Every time you see some little fuck dogwhistling about FREE SPEECH or CENSORSHIP, you gotta make sure they aren't welcome in these parts.
"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
I for one welcome our intolerant of intolerance server admins across the fediverse.
If you click on the "more" button under a comment or link there will be an activity tab. In this tab you can see everyone who has boosted, favourited or reduced the post. I'm not sure if this a...
Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities...
Why YSK: If we want to keep the Fediverse in the hands of its users and prevent "enshittification" (search it), it's good to know how corporations kill grassroots projects like this....
I sort by all and new and have seen a fair amount of posts from bots bringing over content from Reddit. A lot of it doesn’t have much if any engagement on here and as far as I can tell even if there was it wouldn’t cross back and forth between the two platforms....
My issue with it, is let's say there's a self post and I respond to it. Knowing it's a bot post, I still want to contribute to the community, but I know I'm unlikely to get a response. It's possible it could start a conversation here though.
I get its a way to fill the communities with content, but it feels like a half baked attempt. Or an inflation of interactions.
Not sure the right route in these early days though.
This blog post by Ploum, who was part of the original XMPP efforts long ago, describes how Google killed one great federated service, which shows why the Fediverse must not give Meta the chance
The blog post "How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse)" by Ploum discusses how the GAFAM empire controls the internet in 2023, except for a few small villages that resist the oppression and form the "Fediverse"¹. The Fediverse gains fame and attention through debates around Twitter and Reddit¹. The post also discusses how capitalists are against competition and how Facebook has been careful to kill every competition by buying companies that could become competitors¹. However, the Fediverse cannot be bought because it is an informal group of servers discussing through a protocol (ActivityPub) and running different software¹. The post also discusses how Google made XMPP irrelevant by joining the XMPP federation¹.
From the podcast: "Our bodies have a kind of emergency temperature relief valve. That valve is a special type of blood vessel: they’re called arteriovenous anastomoses. Most arteries and veins connect through a bed of very thin capillaries that bring nutrients and oxygen to cells. AVAs, though, are different. They are direct...
The free work Reddit moderators do has been valued at $3.4 million annually
That seems an extremely conservative estimate to me. The linked article says:
The team recorded the work done to keep 126 subreddits moderated for an average of 142 days, and analysed automated logs generated whenever the 900 human moderators took an action.
In total, more than 800,000 actions were recorded. Some actions contained full timestamps of when work began and ended; others only contained a single timestamp – for removing a post, say – and so the time taken was estimated at what the researchers believe is a lower bound.
The median amount of time any individual spent working daily is 10 seconds, but the top 10 per cent of moderators spent between 3 and 40 minutes working for Reddit. Two in every three actions were taken by the top 10 per cent of moderators.
There's a major problem with this methodology, which is the assumption that a moderator is not working unless they're taking an action. But that's not the case, is it? Sitting around keeping an eye on things and not doing anything because no action is currently required is still work! Just like a security guard. You pay them for all of the 8 hours they spend watching your stuff every day, not just for the thirty seconds a month spent actually apprehending thieves.
According to this Reddit post, there were over 70K moderators on Reddit six years ago. Even if they were only paid the US minimum wage of $7.25 per hour and each of them on average only spent fifteen minutes a day keeping an eye on things, it would still cost Reddit almost fifty million dollars annually. And that's based on a number that's six years old, which is certain to have grown a lot since then.
So yeah, Reddit is benefiting from free labor a lot.
Everything on here is awesome right now, it feels like an online forum from the 2000s, everyone is friendly, optimistic, it feels like the start to something big....
Oh absolutely. One of the absolute worst things that plague social media platforms, ie spam bots, troll farms, and influence campaigns, they haven't bothered to target Lemmy because no one was here.
But an influx of users means an increase in targets. In the same way we're settling in an learning the platform, so are they. It's gonna start ramping up real soon once they determine the optimal strategy. And the most worrying thing is, because of the way fediverse works, it is going to complicate combating them substantially.
That is maybe the biggest benefit of a centralized platform, and it's a trade off we're going to have to learn to accept and deal with.
I'm 32, I remember using the internet before google was a thing, discovering flashy websites, hanging out on all kinds of internet forums and chatrooms, ebaums world, MySpace, new grounds... I rember when YouTube was just starting off and it was exploding with all kinds of content....
I have not seen it yet, though I have no doubt that it exists.
I believe that in real life as in the fediverse, hate speech and bigotry of all kinds needs to be very firmly shot down. Immediately downvote and block that shit. It has no place here, or anywhere.
That being said, debating or even engaging with these pricks is worse than pointless because you’ll never change their minds and will only give them a platform.
Hello and welcome! The main goal of m/chat is to create a general social space for people to freely and safely communicate about their lives, interests and everything else freely. Casual conversation is encouraged....
OC Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery.
It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit....
PSA: every interaction you make with various posts on kbin is viewable to everyone.
If you click on the "more" button under a comment or link there will be an activity tab. In this tab you can see everyone who has boosted, favourited or reduced the post. I'm not sure if this a...
banning and defederating communities
Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities...
New kbin user guide (preparation for impending wave of reddit migrants in July)
This article is an x-post from m/quickstart...
YSK about corporations' strategies to kill open source protocols (ploum.net)
Why YSK: If we want to keep the Fediverse in the hands of its users and prevent "enshittification" (search it), it's good to know how corporations kill grassroots projects like this....
How do you feel about bots automatically reposting content from Reddit onto Lemmy?
I sort by all and new and have seen a fair amount of posts from bots bringing over content from Reddit. A lot of it doesn’t have much if any engagement on here and as far as I can tell even if there was it wouldn’t cross back and forth between the two platforms....
Memes used to be so much simpler (lemmy.world)
Kbin upvote vs Lemmy upvvote
I already understood that, for now, the Kbin upvote not really upvote a post/comment and to do so, I need to boost it....
How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) (ploum.net)
This blog post by Ploum, who was part of the original XMPP efforts long ago, describes how Google killed one great federated service, which shows why the Fediverse must not give Meta the chance
YSK hands, feet and the upper part of your face are the most effective vectors of heat relief, while draping a cold towel around your neck can actually stop you from cooling down. (www.scientificamerican.com)
From the podcast: "Our bodies have a kind of emergency temperature relief valve. That valve is a special type of blood vessel: they’re called arteriovenous anastomoses. Most arteries and veins connect through a bed of very thin capillaries that bring nutrients and oxygen to cells. AVAs, though, are different. They are direct...
After porn-y protest, Reddit ousted mods; replacing them isn’t simple (arstechnica.com)
What is the most useful website you know?
I'm always eager to find new amazing sites i've never heard of, which ones would you recommend?
I feel like there is a pending wave of AI bots incoming
Everything on here is awesome right now, it feels like an online forum from the 2000s, everyone is friendly, optimistic, it feels like the start to something big....
The internet is great again, thanks to all of you 🙂
I'm 32, I remember using the internet before google was a thing, discovering flashy websites, hanging out on all kinds of internet forums and chatrooms, ebaums world, MySpace, new grounds... I rember when YouTube was just starting off and it was exploding with all kinds of content....
/r/scams forced to reopen (lemmy.world)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/14c9hlo/reopening_but_not_for_the_reasons_you_may_suspect/
Seriously tho, don’t do that (lemmy.world)
Have encountered racism, hate speech or homophobia on the fediverse yet?
If so, do you consistently report it and get the feeling that it gets dealt with? Of course there are instances dedicated solely to being human trash
OC As a kid, i never understood how my mom could chow down on celery all day.
Now I'm here, doing the same thing! What foods did y'all grow to love over time?
OC m/chat Welcome Thread! Introduce yourself here.
Hello and welcome! The main goal of m/chat is to create a general social space for people to freely and safely communicate about their lives, interests and everything else freely. Casual conversation is encouraged....
MEGATHREAD
Megathread backup from r/piracy:...