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This didn't age well. Not that Microsoft were above board back then either.

Firefox not taking focus when opening links from (EDIT) some apps but not others on Wayland (KDE)

Dunno if this is Wayland, Thunderbird, Firefox or KDE causing this issue but in the past few days I've been giving Wayland a go. Been much snappier and no issues but for Firefox not taking focus when I open web links in Thunderbird....

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I'm not sure this is specifically a KDE/Plasma 5 issue though. Firefox correctly gets focus on X. But it also correctly gets focus on Wayland when opening URLs in Firefox from apps that aren't Thunderbird.
So far that I've found it's only a combination of Thunderbird, Firefox and Wayland.

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It's in my OP - Thunderbird 115.6.1 :)

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The task manager icon does indeed correctly turn orange.

Default web browser is set properly. I tried setting it to Chromium and every single app I tested with Chromium, correctly opened and took focus with Chromium. Switched back to Firefox and once again it's not always taking focus. Only this time, when I tested Steam, Firefox didn't take focus from Steam even though it did before.

This definitely seems to be an issue with Firefox + Wayland given that Chromium had no issues opening up all the links from different apps I tried.

At least the issue is now whittled down a bit more. Thanks for your help!

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I thought that too but if you see my edits above, I tried several different app combos, and it's not consistent. I tried setting Chromium as my default browser (it opened all links and took focus correctly every time) and when I switched Firefox back to the default browser, Firefox didn't take focus from Steam even though it did originally 🤦🏻‍♀️

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I've been using Linux for about a decade now. Windows for even longer before that. We still have some Windows laptops in our house. Even a decade ago when I first started trying Linux out, it was far more plug and play than Windows and still is.
The overwhelming majority of the time drivers are provided by the Linux kernel - install your distro and everything just works.
Windows I always have to go to various websites, download files for various devices and then install them.
Even when I need something specific on Linux, one store (in my case Arch repositories, including AUR), I can use one interface and download and install anything in one step - I skip the looking for the manufacturers website, going to the website, finding the software download, downloading it and then going through the installation process on Windows.

Linux has some things that are more difficult, but overall is infinitely easier to use.

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Probably because normally there's a huge financial and social disparity between shoe shiners and the people getting their shoes done. Classism is a learned behaviour so it's disconcerting and unpleasant seeing such young children who wouldn't yet understand classism behaving in discriminatory or prejudiced/internalised oppression behaviours.

Additionally the shoes shining child has dark hair and is wearing what appears to be a fez/tarboush whereas the child getting their shoes shined is blonde - which brings to mind social disparaties between white people and POC/colonialism and could be seen as enforcing racist stereotypes, again in young children who wouldn't normally have any sense of this sort discrimination.

Tl;DR: It provokes a juxtaposition of innocent children against adult behaviours that involve classism, racism and colonialism.

It's like the Uncanny Valley of classis, racism and colonialism - it illicits feelings of discomfort but you can't entirely put your finger on why.

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Bit of a misleading title - not for the first time, but rather seen accurately again.

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It's not like you can't install Endeavour and then install Majaro's pamac anyway. Hell, I use Arch but still have pamac installed. Sometimes I just want a gui package manager.

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some guy that used to watch Star Trek as a kid wants to feel like they live in the future while piggybacking on someone else’s work.

I don't think they care about their own nostalgia. I think they ant to use other people's dreams to make a lot of money. I'm also sure some of them genuinely just ant to push the technological envelope just cause they can, ethics be damned. But ultimately, it's just money.

I would love nothing more than the utopian future Trek promised but greed is killing it.

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Wi-Fi drivers? Most should be supplied by the kernel. Do you have obscure Wi-Fi hardware?

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You can just use any distro that runs Steam and set steam to use Big Picture Mode for a similar experience. There are gaming specific distros like ChimeraOS, Nobara, Pop!_OS, Garuda, etc. though.

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Aye, it's pretty uncommon these days to find Wi-Fi that doesn't just work out of the box. Can indeed happen on occasion though. Usually if there's no wiki entry on the issue, the community is pretty good about helping out.

I would definitely give it another go. I've been daily driving for about a decade now - I didn't personally have any issues back then other than some games being pita or not working at all with WINE. But Linux gaming has made huge steps in recent years.

Technically I still duel boot and have always done (for just in case) but I can't even remember the last time I booted into Windows.

Suspension on my laptop (closing the lid) causes Wifi to not be available.

Hi, this is a long lasting problem that I didn't really manage to fix when I started using linux (Mint, Cinnamon). But now that I've been using it regularly for half a year and I have more experience in fiddling around, I'm trying to get it resolved....

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Looking at the Arch Wiki, it looks like this is a known issue. Give this solution a go:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/MSI_GS65#Wifi_is_hardblocked_(airplane_mode)_after_waking_up_from_suspend

EDIT: on closer look, it's not much of a solution. I assume you've tried restarting the network service and that doesn't work either? Possibly you could automate the airplane mode key twice by triggering that after waking from suspend....

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The Epic Games that ironically has monopolised exclusive titles on their platform? That Epic Games? The same Epic Games done for violating kids privacy rights? Epic Games that makes it hard to get refunds? The Epic Games partly owned by Tencent who are known to be in bed with the CCP? That one? Epic who my be selling user data to the CCP and broke GDPR laws? And the Epic Games CEO who actively shits on Linux gamers? Are we talking about that Epic Games?

Meh, they can go to hell along with Google.

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Try living in New Zealand where $600 would be considered a bargain. If we could get a Deck at all.

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Sorry, I was alluding to how expensive everything is here. Even with our free healthcare, the average American still has more disposable income than the average NZer.
And unfortunately decades of underfunding and budget cuts has our 'free' health system on its knees. Many people now pay for health insurance or even fundraiser to go private because waiting lists are so insane. If it continues on the way it is, people are goi g to end up with the American system anyway as people will opt for paid insurance that gives them far more choice and better access than the poor person system will (aka our current system will become like Medicaid and not people will be insured or user paid anyway).

Sorry to be all doom and gloom on a gaming community, just sometimes really sucks to be so isolated and watching society around you go to shit.

Any, I'm gonna go put my energy where I want it to go and do some volunteer work 😊

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Back about two decades when I was using Windows and it was till easily customisable, I changed the bsod colour to red for funsies. Windows being Windows crashed and went to my red screen of death - my ex's cousin saw it and thought it was something really really bad, "Wow, a red screen, never seen that before. Must be even worse than blue". No mate, I just customise the shit out of anything I touch 😅

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