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The reddit thing was even described as a "hack" to google search iirc

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There are some high quality forms out there. G really needs to hook into these forums and the fediverse if they need to replace the reddit content.

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Can confirm. Exact same scenario. Being permabanned means having read-only access for the most part, with the sole exception being that one is allowed to edit and delete existing posts and comments.

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Sadly this means that one must still go through the trouble to manually delete all posts and comments (or use a good tool like shreddit to automate this, see https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the ) and then still delete the account in reddit settings.

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I don't think the scraping is the full reason. I was not on lemmy/kbin or any other part of the fediverse and I still got this random permaban, in fact it happened before the pricing changes were announced on May 31st.

Also, my username there is different to what I'm using on the fediverse.

Prior to being permabanned I also never used the API for anything. Only used it for the scripts to wipe my account clean (so being permabanned doesn't typically prevent one from creating the API tokens or actually using the API, it seems).

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Hey, feel free to join us over on https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/85486/Permaban-roll-call !

Also, let me know if you see this kind of weirdness after you have deleted your account proper, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/91322/Post-ban-and-deletion-weirdness (remember that your account still exists even if permabanned, until you delete it outright).

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Well, I did log in to overwrite posts and comments periodically and as subs went public again.

And I've been checking in with r/ModCoord every once in a blue moon, but only via teddit and anonymously (not using an account).

But if those don't count those then I haven't been back at all since.

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This almost happened to me today too.

But instead of going to the reddit link I saw a link to a forum dedicated to the topic I saw searching for (hammocks) and got my quality advice from there instead.

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Totally outrageous. Never in a mlllion years would I have thought this.

Also, totally on par for the course for the current ceo.

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Actually, this video is about the other video. So the 3rd point - restoring comments after getting the legal request to delete, may not be totally accurate. https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/101759/Reddit-violates-CCPA#entry-comment-413421

But the main gist - that reddit is violating CCPA - is still correct.

Does anybody feel like the quality of reddit has already dropped massively?

I see a lot of comments from bootlickers on how the protests are dumb and stupid and dont work and engagement metrics are still holding but the quality of posts and comments has noticeably depreciated imo. So much so that whenever I visit the site Im actually shocked at how bad it is.

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I ended up checking a few times via teddit and I noticed the exact same thing. It seems a lot of the non-mod quality contributors have already left.

Those who stayed are probably power users using 3rd party apps. So expect another big drop in quality on July 1st.

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Note that redact doesn't always get everything. https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/46805/Strange-phenomenon-while-deleting-my-comments

But agree with the idea. The best way is to use a tool to mass edit and then mass delete. For example https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65260/PSA-Here-s-exactly-what-to-do-if-you-hit-the

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Word is that they don't, deletes are soft-deletes but edits aren't so reversible.

In this specific case it looks like it might just be that specific sub being private on the day he deleted, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/99466/Reddit-violates-CCPA#entry-comment-406442

Watching the video i see him deleting from 11 months ago to 12 years ago. But don't see the specific 3 year old posts on r/javascript. Which would be consistent with not being able to see them due to the sub being private.

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You can use the shreddit cli script from github as it has the same option for free.

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That’s the word on the street from former devs who used to work there. It’s actually a sign of how poor in quality their system is that they don’t have a good way to reverse edits, if still true.

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Nice to see this getting the press coverage that it deserves.

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The record so far is that without a mod crossing lines the sub just stays restricted. Effectively shutdown.

You may look forward to it but I doubt it will happen.

I hope reddit enjoys the loss of traffic after they shut down this sub. I know I will.

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This does kinda explain why reddit is behaving like this. However going too far in cost cutting- well it’s like cutting off your own arms and legs. So reddit as we know it may be doomed either way. Can’t survive if they give into the protests but also can’t survive once the mods and subs have been irreversibly alienated.

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So reddit had basically broken the unwritten agreement it had with the community - the ones who gave it content that made it valuable as a company.

If they can’t survive without dishonouring that agreement then maybe it’s not such a bad thing if they don’t survive.

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I respect your position on the situation.

You say that, but you also say

Have we not outgrown this kind of valueless trolling?

So I'm not sure which one to believe.

I would personally prefer it survive if at all possible.

Okay, I'll bite. Why?

So why intentionally hurt other users, when you know that's what you're doing?

I am not doing this. reddit is the one doing this, by going after their mods unpaid volunteers with demands, and shutting down subs when they can't find replacement mods.

But I'll go further and ask this - what am I specifically doing that is hurting other users? Can you actually identify and name the specific action or actions that I've done that are hurtful? Have I actually taken any action aside from expressing an opinion?

If reddit can't survive just because I've expressed an opinion, then they're already dead.

It's obvious that the company isn't going to change course because they need to get very profitable, very quickly

Usually that's a sign that the company needs to change course. The evidence is that by upsetting the users and community, reddit has lost revenue. Yet reddit continues to shoot itself in the foot.

Do people think it will be a badge of honor that they were still trolling when Reddit died?

Not trolling, expressing my true beliefs.

But yes, I think a badge of honour is deserved for all those who got banned for protestng https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/51891/Mildly-NSFW-Welp-I-guess-that-s-it-The-single-photo https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/71930/Reddit-admins-have-gone-off-the-deep-end-Banned-for-sexual

And for those mods who were removed by reddit https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/69025/The-entire-mod-team-of-r-MildlyInteresting-22m-just-got-the https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/67350/All-mods-on-r-TIHI-have-been-removed https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/65935/Reddit-just-removed-all-the-mods-from-r-self-and-locked https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/59559/Removed-as-moderator-of-r-Celebrities-after-14-years

Perhaps even for those who didn't do anything, and got preemptively banned by reddit anyways, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/90636/u-Awkwardtheturtle-posting-an-update-on-her-reddit-ban

And for all of their supporters. Remember, we are arguing on the side of the accessibility challenged, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/66862/r-blind-community-migrates-to-Lemmy

So if that doesn't deserve a badge of honour, then I don't want to know what does.

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I'm very sorry if that was taken personally, that's not how I meant it. You and I, discussing the situation here on KBin, aren't trolling anyone.

Gotcha. Glad we got that misunderstanding cleared up.

But a group of users are doing hurtful and troublesome things

Yeah, it's a form of civil disorder. We should keep in mind they aren't doing this because they enjoy causing trouble, but because they feel that basically this is their only way to be heard.

Those who were banned or demoted, I'd need to know the particulars.

That's why I gave links. But would agree it's reasonable to consider this on a case-by-case basis.

Over time, I've come to accept the essential fact of disability accommodation - companies weigh costs
accessibility measures will not be taken at any time.

I guess I should be grateful that I live in a country where things like this are considered a human right. The semi-galling fact about this in reddit's case is that others stepped in to fill that accessibility gap, and reddit basically didn't care and chucked them out the window.

I say semi as reddit does deserve credit for allowing Red Reader et al to survive.

But apparently the only good third party apps with accessible mod tools are going. Here's a recent experience of someone trying to use the builtin mod tools on the official reddit app and giving up in frustration, https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/ModSupport/comments/14jkqiy/this_is_the_current_experience_moderating_on/

As far as why I would prefer Reddit survive, it's a combination of

Reasonable, but if reddit goes then something else will rise to replace it. I never used digg but apparently it used to lead on all three of these points, until digg shot itself in the foot and refused to listen to the community - giving the chance for reddit to surplant it.

Hey, deja vu?

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But they promised they wouldn’t! </sarcasm>

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