Which nations, named or considered a homeland for an ethnicity, treat people differently based on their religion or ethnicity? Cause I can go for #Israel (including maybe the Palestinian territories) being Jewish in the same way that Greece is Greek etc. You don't get special rights anywhere in Europe afaik for having the related heritage. It would probably take decades of UN forces and a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to make that work. What side does this put me on? #Gaza
@wjmaggos@amerika Read any history of any country in Africa. Watch Hotel Rwanda. Etc.
Bottom line…you had better be affiliated with the ruling party, tribe, ethnicity, religion or any combination.
I'm not sure what you're arguing. people group up and give themselves special rights and it leads to conflict. the more recent history of this in Africa sucks but it's not unique or unsolvable.
gotcha. I then brought up Europe because I know countries do this but Israel clearly wants to be considered European-ish. Somehow they get to be part of the Eurovision song contest (along with Australia, while Turkey and Russia don't).
I'm not arguing for the unfair treatment or expulsion you want. I'm trying to find compromises that won't make anyone happy, but most people happier. You always frame these things in such a way that "your group" comes out on top, reworking "facts" as needed.
it doesn't. it leads to endless conflict over whose "order" or oppression. and libertarians don't see the left as individualistic. liberalism (not progressivism) lets all groups work together as well as possible.
We already have endless conflict. Forcing different groups together makes more of it AND makes those civilizations unstable.
Liberalism, progressivism, Marxism, anarchism, Communism, Democrats... all part of the same egalitarian spectrum. Not found in nature, just a human neurosis.
you are ridiculously selective about what things we don't find in nature that you object to. get off the computer and go live in a cave. the smallest tribe is a family. we'd have none of what we all take for granted in modern life without much more pluralism than your tribalism would allow. it's the same myopic mentality that pretends there wouldn't be horrible repercussions without government or if we let religious thinking run shit. simpleminded bs to grift, who cares who gets hurt.
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