Honestly, mods should just force the issue and make Reddit replace them. It's going to be a big problem if Reddit needs to find new moderators for hundreds if not thousands of subreddits. And that's assuming all the new moderators will play along and not immediately join the protest, go on a tyrannical power trip, or just go dark after a few weeks.
Why would anyone even want to be a mod right now? It's like your boss threatening to fire you from a job you're not paid for while the building is actively on fire.
Mod of /r/homeimprovement here, that's exactly what we are doing. We are staying dark and forcing them to replace us if that's what they want to do at this point. We are at least going to make them work for it, lol.
I get that some people will step up into being Mods, but modding is hard and thankless work - I've done it a few times over the years.
There's always subs crying out for new Mods, so you'll end up scraping the barrel for Mods, then the quality will go down, people will get pissed off. With thousands of Subs suddenly needing modding, there's simply not enough volunteers to go around.
One of Reddits unsung resources was its army of Mods keeping the content of some quality (define that as you will). Reddit really is cutting its nose off right now.
Out of curiosity, how likely do you expect those reddit mods to move to lemmy? I see a bunch of retiring mods posts, but not many that have said they were moving here.
There will be lag, sometimes significant lag, in moving I think. Remember, the protests were about trying to save Reddit, and, failing that, making it as obvious as possible that Reddit's about to shoot itself in the groin. People who have invested a decade or more building and running stable and growing communities kind of have to grieve the loss of the fruit of their labours.
I do think you'll see many of them show up here relatively soon, as users. But the prospect of rebuilding from near scratch will probably take a little more time for people to wrestle with.
That seems like it will present a problem. If an uninformed redditor asks, “hey is it safe to move this wire?” And some troll replies, “yes”… with no one there who is knowledgeable to moderate. Might lead to some disastrous outcomes.
*edit - I agree with you forcing the admin’s hands. Im not sure they know what they will be getting themselves into.
But they’re carefully avoiding to say or else what. My guess is every next step option would cost them resources at the scale of subreddits they’re reaching out to, so they’re hoping that the empty threat alone will cause some to relent without costing them anything. Right?
They'd most likely take over at least the frontpage subs. They could hire contractors for dirt cheap from the far corners of the world and it would probably be good enough.
What's there to take? Like, these guys are working for free running on their enthusiasm and passion. You make them question whether the community is really worth their time, even if they relent for now, how does that do reddit any good? It isn't like reddit has any actual power over the mods on their ultimate decision of quiting.
Unfortunately, from what I'm seeing in a lot of subs, it's working. You do have protests from places like r/aww and r/pics doing the John Oliver thing, and r/Steam posting about literal steam. But it seems like on the large, threats of people losing their ability to give Reddit free labor is working to get subs back open.
Edit: r/pics changed, they've chosen total anarchy.
They are slowly snowballing but it's accelerating. Once a certain amount of people leaves or stops interacting altogether, the site bleeds activity and dies. Roughly 2% of people who went on Reddit were responsible for some 90% of the content. 50% of people browsed without an account (you want those because they're the eyeballs ad are meant for) and the rest were lurkers who occasionally commented. That means if that even half of that 2% of content creators leave, there's no more content for the rest of the users to see or interact with. Once they leave, all lurkers leave. None of the lurkers are going to take up posting to Reddit, modding or create an account. They will just close the tab and move on to something else. That's the snowball that's coming.
(Numbers are roughly remembered from an old analysis of Reddit traffic, but they're consistent with almost all social media)
I did not know it was so low. That's crazy. It makes sense though. I don't know anyone who posts in real life. All the people I know who use Reddit are just lurkers.
Just think in terms of the not 'in your face' subs. Memes/pics and such were easy to make a post and it either goes up or goes down, but most other subs would need a little more thought/time for a post to be made.
I was a member of a 2-4 million subreddit, and I think there were only about 20-40 posts a day. Some repetitive posts were removed by the mod bot that you would occasionally see, so maybe a few more than those 20-40, but even the most prolifically engaged-with comment sections would max out around 400 comments.
Responding solely to move from Reddit lurker to a Lemmy contributor.. this is literally the secret right here.. join the revolution, hit the effing reply button, y'all..
On a sunny day walking on a trail, one can't help but to contemplate all they are going to do when they are out of the woods and back home. By that point all they are going to remember is the thinly veiled threat. They are not going to last long.
Reddit was fun. That was really the only thing everyone need and everyone want. All the utilities that comes with the scale is just derivatives. With the way they decide to go forward, modding for reddit will never be fun ever again.
Here is what to do, use a script to delete everything from the sub and then delete the sub. If thry dont care about you, dont let them take yoyr sub and contiue making money.
I do think the question of who owns community content is nuanced. I put this comment here, you might say that means I own it and should be able to withdraw it - but it also doesn’t mean much of anything by itself, it needs your content to make sense. So who owns the discourse we are having? Me or you? Or whoever runs the server it is stored on - who must have some legal right to reproduce our content in order to provide the community space? Or the community as a whole? The combined content on Reddit represents an incredibly valuable store of information and learning - who does that belong to? Who should get to benefit from it?
It is always the same with capitalist investors thinking they have rule over free choice. Lol like fire me if you don’t like it. Go ahead. Oh right. You can’t. Not your choice.
It's interesting how during numerous examples of users trying to fight mod teams over changing direction of the sub, new rules, unwanted new mods etc., and getting admins involved, the answer was ALWAYS the same "Subs are owned by their creators/mods. If you don't like it you can always create a new one".
Suddenly they belong to communieties? Communities that in numerous examples voted by themselves to stay closed? How absolutely full of shit they are...
I just deleted three of my reddit accounts. I am done. As an artist, I have more work to do on my primary current account. I feel I should delete my art from reddit so that they can not make money from my art and music.
As a fellow creative, I think that would be a good idea. I'm personally leaving my account live for basic reasons, but I'm going through and deleting posts containing anything I've created.
Im a reddit mod with a sub over 20 million - today they removed our top mod, and then sent us a message saying that 'we requested a re-ordering'. It's total bullshit.
i wish they'd just fucking nut up and be up front about it. then you can at least see it in plain view as can everyone else.
"we're putting down dissent, regardless of if it kills our site usage or valuation. get on board or fuck off." is the exact same thing that's occurring, but is at least slightly more respectable than this microsoft-esque "we're doing this for your own good (whether you like it or not)" approach.
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