davew,
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I'm tired of people using the term "podcast" when I can't find it at the place where I get my podcasts.

pfefferle,
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davew,
@davew@mastodon.social avatar

@pfefferle -- i have no idea what you're saying.

pfefferle,
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@davew I think it is not only the problem, to find the podcast on the main directories, but that a lot of podcast are published using services, so that it is sometimes not even possible to simply follow their local sites RSS feed :(

I am currently trying to make Podcasts also a first class citizen of the Fediverse but it is not as easy as I thought. It seems that quite some sites do not even use local podcasting plugins any more, looking at the number of downloads.

https://github.com/Automattic/wordpress-activitypub/pull/754

davew,
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@pfefferle -- thanks now i have a clue. ;-)

i think the way to go is to start a new platform that supports all of the features of textcasting, does it as part of its stated mission, and then build from there. and let some of the features filter back into this layer of the social web.

at least that's the approach i'm taking. ;-)

darnell,
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@pfefferle @davew I know Castopods (https://castopods.com) by @Castopod is trying to make podcasting great again. 😉 Mocking the pumpkin joker aside, I do think there is value in podcasting, although it is surprising that YouTube has become the home of many podcasters nowadays.

mjgardner,
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@darnell @pfefferle @Castopod I’m not surprised when creators flock to services offering easy tools to adopt and monetize. That’s the engine that drove #blogging into the arms of #Medium and #Substack, and it’s what’s driving #podcasting into #YouTube.

@davew, you’ve long advocated for easy writing and distribution of text. Unfortunately, creators don’t care about open standards and access until the lock-in hurts them directly.

davew,
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@mjgardner @darnell @pfefferle @Castopod

here's what i've learned after many years,

  1. people will try to steal whatever isn't nailed down.

  2. people don't listen to their friends, they do listen to their competitors

drwhitt, (edited )
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@davew So, Dave, I was right there with you and when I saw this I said to myself, “Look! There’s a Spotify logo!”

But I was wrong because this podcast really has downloadable feed URL (.rss) usable in any podcast player.

It’s interesting because many people are podcasting while,
it seems, many corporations are simpl, to put it bluntly, skimming.

https://overcast.fm/+0jzaHmpaQ

menelion,
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@davew A podcast must have an RSS feed, by definition. To me, if you are on Apple Podcasts but you don't publish your RSS for me to subscribe… bye-bye, I'll search for something else.

tomwsmf,

@davew if I can't grab the enclosure from an RSS feed it's just another bit of enshitifried marketing. But that game was already being lost with Adam Vindallo's branding play.

"Podcasts are dead, long live podcasts"

Sidebar....netcast....(Too soon?)

harry_karadimas,

@davew We should never have accepted the name podcast in the first place

Alister,
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@harry_karadimas @davew While I never listened to Adam Curry's early podcasts on an iPod (I had something else at the time), I appreciate that he was good at branding - and it was those early mp3 players that people did use

ericjmorey,

@davew

Where do you get your podcasts?

airwhale,
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@ericjmorey @davew

Eh... through RSS feeds, naturally. All searchable from inside my podcast app.

Worried I misunderstood the question?

vees,
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@davew It's only a Podcast if it comes from the RSS region of the internet, otherwise it's just sparkling spotify

davew,
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