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FaceDeer, to ukraine in Putin declares goal to reshape global order, funds major military surge
FaceDeer avatar

Well, Russia collapsing and fragmenting would reshape the world order, it's true...

RedditReject,

Again?

MrMakabar,

The Sovjetunion was a multi cultural country, but Russia itself is 80% Russian and then you have a 4% Taras and 2.2% Ukranians. The rest are at the 1% mark. Most are well within Russian territory. Basically the only place Russia could really loose land is in the Caucasus. So Russia is not going to fragment unless there is a civil war going on.

Russia collapsing would mean Ukraine and very likely Belarus moving towards the EU and NATO. Russian influence in Central Asia would propably be replaced with China and the West would move left again, as Russia stops supporting far right Kremlin parties.

TropicalDingdong, to ukraine in Ukrainian versatile unmanned combat vehicle undergoes frontline testing

Ah yes, the “lets get weird” phase.

thanksforallthefish,

Aerial and aquatic drones have been very succesful in this war, why not terrestial ?

567PrimeMover,
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At the very least, you're not losing a crew every time a vehicle like this gets destroyed. Seems logical to pursue when you need every experienced operator you can get

TropicalDingdong,

because in those two previously mentioned environments, you can move in all 6 dimensions and it’s the same thing, a fluid.

terrestrial is the interface between a fluid and a solid surface. Solid surfaces are super tricky.

thanksforallthefish,

RC cars seem to work fairly well. Human driven vehicles work fine. People play car driving PC games (Forza etc) Hell Ukraine has already fitted tractors & Combine Harvesters with remote control tech because of mines.

Why is this so different ?

sorebuttfromsitting,

thanks for the giggle. i don’t expect much here, but let’s see what happens.

Kurwailija,

Is that the huge technological advance stage? :) Im quessing there will be lots of wartime proven technology for sale when ukraine gets its borders back and UN and its allies make a new neutral sector between them and russia

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Russia will veto anything the UN tries to do.

TropicalDingdong,

I want to see mobile armor mechs with duck feet for the mud season.

Not necessarily technological “advance” but technological “was that really necessary?”.

Kurwailija,

That would absolutely be necessary! I can already see the duckfeet doing riverdance on mines!

Hyperreality, to ukraine in Official: Russian army “eliminated” almost all Ukrainian literature in occupied Luhansk, Donetsk

"Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen."

ZILtoid1991,
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Reminder that Putin has a lebensbraum-type project, and that's why he wants to eliminate Ukraine and its culture.

theodewere, to world in Russian soldier admits proudly his comrades were killing POWs
theodewere avatar

what do you expect from Orcs

YaaAsantewaa, (edited )

You need to return to reddit and leave with your disgusting xenophobia and racism

Hanabie,
Hanabie avatar

You need to return to lemmygrad.

bloopernova,
@bloopernova@programming.dev avatar

You need to go to russia and leave with your disgusting xenophobia and racism

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

lol no, get lost tankie

ZILtoid1991,
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lemmy.blahaj.zone

They would also torture you to death.

eestileib,

FACTOS

mashbooq,

Lol. Lmao, even

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz avatar

Says the one who obviously has a stick up his ass about white people, and uses terms like “White People trash”.

CookieJarObserver,

You joined a week ago… We are here longer.

Gtfo

theodewere,
theodewere avatar

all Russians are gonna learn.. you obviously need to accept that.. it's going to be tough for you, because you believe you're exceptional for some reason.. trust me, you will understand something new very soon..

pingveno,

We can talk about the murderers who are doing this without using racist epithets.

mino,

Since when is calling someone an “orc” racist? Lmao

I mean orcs don’t exist in real life?!?!

Edit: also fuck russia

primbin,

I agree, fuck russia, I despise the murderous Russian soldiers, but calling people of a specific nationality “orcs” feels kinda racist to me, idk

I’ve seen people calling all russians orcs, not just the soldiers, even though I’m sure there are a lot of russians who are opposed to the actions of their government. It feels like it could become another harmful, racist stereotype if we all keep repeating it and defending it.

Like, when the war is over, will Russians still be called orcs?

SCB,

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  • LemmyRefugee,

    It’s an insult, not racism. Just read the dictionary.

    foggy,

    I’ll take a middle road here

    It’s not good to dehumanize people. Even ones who commit atrocities.

    Dehumanization is how we got here, it’s not a good path back, unless we wanna go in circles.

    It’s subtle, but important, for us to keep human the worst humans. We need to keep salient that these atrocities are being committed by our own to our own humans. That we are all capable of it.

    at_an_angle,

    While I do agree with you, the more information that comes out of this war and what Russian soldiers do to the citizens of Ukraine, the less empathy there is.

    And I’m empty. After hearing about the rape and murder of men, women, and children by Russian hands.

    Fuck em. Those aren’t humans. Those are monsters.

    foggy, (edited )

    No, they are humans, just like you.

    Like it or not, there is nothing within you that is not within them. You are fully capable of commiting those very acts.

    Humans are evil. There are no monsters.

    Until we can all agree on this, atrocities will continue to occur.

    The downvotes just tell me that humans are doomed to repeat history.

    Hacksaw,

    The reason you don’t dehumanize people who commit atrocities isn’t (mainly) because they deserve more empathy. It’s because it’s important not to forget that these atrocities are committed by everyday humans. Normal I have a wife and kids, I joined the army as a kid out of high school or after being a warehouse clerk for a few years, I coach soccer in the summers, basic-ass humans.

    When we dehumanize people like that it blinds us to the fact normal people can commit atrocities when sufficiently radicalized and trained to dehumanize others. It blinds us to the dangers posed by these ideologies when they’re in their initial stages.

    When we dehumanize people like that it also mentally prepares us to accept when atrocities are committed against them, or even to become complicit in doing so.

    You don’t humanize them for them. You do it to protect you and everyone you love from the dangers of dehumanizing others.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I agree with you. Furthermore, it’s a step down the path of genocide. If your opponent is not human, why do they deserve human rights? They’re a dangerous animal. You wouldn’t let a dangerous animal live.

    pinkdrunkenelephants,

    No one is seriously committing genocide against Russia. Stop overreacting

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not saying they are. You’re missing the point.

    CookieJarObserver,

    Exactly, Orcs don’t want to be associated with lowlife like that.

    Wremmi, to ukraine in Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal

    Sadly nothing in this is new or surprising. Only thing that baffles me is, that it’s been so many years since russian lies started, and how long they have been doing it in order to get “permission” to fully invade.

    xuxebiko,

    :(

    Froyn,

    Wag the Dog came out in 1997. Art imitating life or life imitating art, it's all cyclical.

    sparkl_motion,

    Foundations of Geopolitics is a great read, and really details the steps Putin has taken since gaining power.

    Flaky_Fish69, to worldnews in Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal
    Flaky_Fish69 avatar

    didn't we already know this, though?

    Arotrios,
    Arotrios avatar

    In broad detail, but I found the article interesting in that it goes into deep specifics, and shows the extent to which they manufactured the event.

    DarkThoughts,

    Prigozhin himself during his little tantrum towards Moscow even said that the whole pretext (like in 2014 already) was just bs. I feel that is one of those details that got kinda swallowed in the news and didn't got enough attention.

    Buelldozer, to ukraine in Denmark to send Ukraine first F-16s in summer, Netherlands in fall, Dutch defense minister says
    @Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

    I’m sort of confused by this. Just last week Ukraine announced that they’d start flying F-16s after Orthodox Easter was over…so where are those F-16s coming from?

    assembly, to ukraine in Denmark to send Ukraine first F-16s in summer, Netherlands in fall, Dutch defense minister says

    Hoping the addition of these jets can help the front lines a bit.

    neuropean, to ukraine in Ukraine to protect future F-16 fleet by dispersing it in underground bunkers

    Hope it wasn’t planning to be a secret.

    BombOmOm, to ukraine in Italy supplies Ukraine with Storm Shadow missiles, UK Defense Secretary discloses
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    Very nice to hear Italy stepping up to the plate here!

    crispy_kilt, to ukraine in Ukraine’s military confirms damaging two more Russian Black Sea Fleet’s large landing ships

    Awesome!

    TheMightyCanuck, to ukraine in Ukraine’s military confirms damaging two more Russian Black Sea Fleet’s large landing ships
    @TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I think this is now an up to date list. Let me know if I’m missing any https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/3b4c743f-f0fa-4ff9-998f-bae0aec385f2.jpeg

    Hazzia,

    Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Russia just… ran out of ships

    TheMightyCanuck,
    @TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yes it would… that being said , this is just their black sea fleet and not the whole navy.

    holycrap, to ukraine in Ukraine’s military confirms damaging two more Russian Black Sea Fleet’s large landing ships

    But didn’t sink them?

    TankovayaDiviziya,

    Sometimes, putting ships out of action if the damage is so bad that is as good as sinking them. It costs valuable resources, time and manpower to repair heavily damaged ships which can take months if not years. Putting these ships out of action is a force multiplier.

    randombullet,

    Additionally that’s why many munitions are designed to maim rather than to kill.

    Puts a drain on time and resources.

    modifier, to ukraine in Ukraine’s military confirms damaging two more Russian Black Sea Fleet’s large landing ships

    Imagine what Ukraine could do with an actual Navy of their own.

    tal, (edited )
    @tal@lemmy.today avatar

    Like, ships? Honestly, I’d say probably not that much, because they’d be visible and vulnerable, like Russia’s ships are.

    Warships are useful if you want to project power over long distances, which this war doesn’t have a lot of.

    Maybe you could do a behind-the-lines landing to avoid having to push through someone’s defensive line, kind of in line with the Battle of Anzio or Battle of Inchon, but that’d take a lot of amphibious assault capabilities.

    I mean, Russia hasn’t really had her own warships accomplish a whole lot in the war. They disrupted seaborne trade to Ukraine, but Russia’s got coastal access in many places, so it’s not really practical for Ukraine to blockade Russia.

    They fired some cruise missiles at Ukraine, but Russia had the ability to hit the same places with land- or air-based cruise missiles.

    With ships, you’ve got an asset that can be sunk, whereas that’s not the case on land. If you can fight a land war, you’re probably going to get more bang for your buck out of land forces than naval.

    RidderSport,

    Also the Black Sea, while massive for Army-standards is fairly small for Navy standards. There isn’t really much space to operate without danger of being attacked by land-based systems. Especially when there’s the chance that US-drones keep surveillance of the entire area and relay that info to Ukraine

    Reverendender, to ukraine in Meet “Liutyi,” Ukraine’s homegrown drone behind strikes on Russian oil refineries

    Hi, friend! You are most welcome!

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