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CalcProgrammer1, to linux in The 6.7 kernel has been released
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

This should allow nouveau to reclock NVIDIA 2xxx and newer GPUs. Huge step forward for open source NVIDIA drovers and I’ve been testing this on my laptop for a few weeks now woth the rc kernels and the NVK driver and it’s pretty impressive so far.

Unyieldingly,

I’m ready for my system to just work out of the box Nvidia’s Drivers are a shit show.

onlinepersona, to git in Securing Git repositories with gittuf

Love it when an opensource summit uses a closed-source platform that requires creating an account, to watch a presentation about opensource software. Love it 👌

Anti Commercial-AI license

nfsu2, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]
@nfsu2@feddit.cl avatar

Can’t wait to see Youtubers review Gnome 46 and call it an Ubuntu review.

Alborlin, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]

I installed it today and I can’t get sound working, the crate link context menu is missing, I can’t create symbolic links at all. Hdd is hard to detect,

steal_your_face, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s a cute lil guy (and not a bat as I was expecting)

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/493a14da-9e45-4ae7-9948-9f5bb2eed762.jpeg

lemmyreader,

Beautiful!

a_fancy_kiwi, (edited ) to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]

I always forget. Can we do a release upgrade to this or do we have to wait until 24.04.1?

Edit: Nvm. You can update today

sudo do-release-upgrade

lemmyreader,

🙂 I’ve seen several people, during some years now, recommended to wait for .1

rammer,
@rammer@sopuli.xyz avatar

I would still recommend it. At least for production environments.

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

when does .1 usually come out?

greyfox,
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

You could even do it after the beta opened up. I tried on a fresh install of 22.04 and it broke.

Moobythegoldensock,

You can force one with the -D (development branch) flag, but otherwise it doesn’t get pushed until 24.04.1.

MindlessZ,

-d is required if you’re on an lts until .1. If you’re on mantic you should be able to upgrade without it

MehBlah, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]

Noble Numnut would have been much better.

LeFantome,

Noble was used already

Nervous Numnut?

Samsy, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]

No thanks, I’ll wait for 26.10 (snappy snake).

Loucypher,

Why?

Samsy,

Just a bad joke. 26.10 will be something with “s” and I put “snap” in it.

65gmexl3,
@65gmexl3@lemmy.world avatar

Dont know about the downvotes, but its a good one

rotopenguin,
@rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

Snappy Snake features -

Everything is now a snap. Your kernel and initrd? They’re snaps now (requires an updated grub with snap mounter. An /efi partition of less than 20GB is no longer supported). Apt is now a symlink to snap. Procfs and device nodes are all snaps. Instead of “perusing the legacy web2.0 internet with an html browser”, the new Canonical Snapium snaps you into modern digital snap-eriences powered by the Snapchain. The Linux CLI has been replaced with Gnome’s “Drag-n-snap Editor”.

avidamoeba, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

The Linux 6.8 kernel now enables low-latency features by default.

I lived to see this day. 🤯

clb92,

What exactly does this mean for everyday Linux usage?

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

That when there’s load on the system, fewer tasks will get slower, but also fewer things would complete overall in a given time frame. For example you should get fewer stutters in CS2 if a background task loads the system while you’re trying to nail someone with a scout. So long as CS2 has higher priority.

Montagge, to linux in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released [LWN.net]

Awwwwww yeah!

antidote101, (edited ) to linux in Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

Lots of companies will do this, eventually advertising the purity and the size of their human created training data.

These will be the companies selling their content to AI companies, although some will probably just be scanned in illegally. Perhaps a new type of copy write lawsuit will have to be invented.

Most people will continue to use these sites, aware their data is being used like this.

saigot, to linux in Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

If you can tell the contribution is ai generated, it’s not good enough

nivenkos, to linux in Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

But how would they know? It’s like Blade Runner.

AMDIsOurLord, to linux in Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

A lot of butthurt techbros getting cockblocked here lmao

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Ur mum

atzanteol, to linux in Gentoo bans AI-created contributions

Górny took issue with everything from the energy consumption driven by AI

This has to be a joke. The team behind a distro that compiles everything from scratch all the time is concerned about wasting power now? The only distro for which I ever setup a compile cluster?

Give me a break. This is the new luddite movement.

DmMacniel,

If being a luddite means keeping man in the loop so be it.

BreakDecks,

The original Luddite movement was literally a worker’s rights movement, and the “irrationally afraid of technology” characterization was manufactured by the ruling class, so yes. The Luddites were right then and they’re right now too.

tearsintherain,
@tearsintherain@leminal.space avatar
capital,

As someone who regularly saves time by automating, I can’t get on board for a movement which directly opposes process improvement by improving efficiency.

verdigris,

They’re not, they’re opposing a process that leads to garbage output and horrible systemic efficiency.

capital,

Luddites objected primarily to the rising popularity of automated textile equipment, threatening the jobs and livelihoods of skilled workers as this technology allowed them to be replaced by cheaper and less skilled workers.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

I’ve also read a book on the subject of Luddites and it was clear to me that it was a response to higher efficiency machinery replacing the need for a good portion of their jobs.

BreakDecks,

The Luddites lost, but you should read the rest of this wiki article to learn how that happened, and consider again which side you’re on.

sorrybookbroke,

This led to mass starvation as the workers no longer could feed themselves and no industry replaced the lost work. The textiles produced were of lower quality too, and sold for less which harmed the local economy leading to a rise in food prices along with the lower wages. Since the vast majority of arable land was used for cotton too no local food could lower the prices. Many people died as the luddites predicted.

There was mass starvation

They were right. This is not “anti-automation” this is against lower wages, mass unemployment, and an economic decrease. The automation was the cause of this, yes, but the concept of automation was not the issue. The issue was it’s use here.

If the workers were provided an alternative job, if there was some plan to avoid starvation, and if the textiles were of a reasonable quality then there would be no issue.

History proved the luddites correct

MotoAsh, (edited )

The only problem the Luddites had is they went and busted the machines instead of the rich owners’ kneecaps.

If you say, “they did that too!” Well, NOT ENOUGH!!

BreakDecks,

instead

I’d rather they do both.

nivenkos,

But the lump of labour fallacy is wrong - in the end automation makes us all wealthier as goods become cheaper, and people can do more productive work (and be better educated for it too).

BreakDecks,

This is how it should be, but it isn’t the present day reality. Productivity goes up, wages go down, and the rich get richer. We’re headed straight for technofeudalism buddy…

static_dragon,

There was an episode of Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff that covered the luddites, I had no idea beforehand what they actually stood for, fascinating stuff

tearsintherain,
@tearsintherain@leminal.space avatar

Well I’m a Luddite (and so can you!) thenib.com/im-a-luddite/

More luddites please.

utopiah,

Ah, thanks for that link! I actually read the first few pages on the latest MIT Tech Review some days ago, thought I’d ready the rest and forgot, now I can.

lemmyreader,

Gotta say your comment makes an insightful impression, however Gentoo compilations are peanuts compared to the massive energy sucking hype that A.I. is. I am glad that people speak out publicly against this insane madness. A.I. hyping during climate crisis ? Overwhelming sales of SUVs Plans to move to planet Mars Who would have guessed that years ago ?

atzanteol,

Gentoo compilations are peanuts compared to the massive energy sucking hype that A.I. is.

Their overall impact is low because they’re niche. It wouldn’t be if Gentoo were more popular. Imagine all of the AWS EC2 instances running Gentoo. And all of the Docker container builds still compiling glibc over and over.

Fact is they still built a horrifically inefficient system for deploying software. It’s a crazy hypocritical stance to take. AI at least provides benefit - something that can’t be said of Gentoo’s waste.

msage,

When you have multiple Gentoo machines, you compile soft once and distribute it. You would be mad to compile everything every time.

atzanteol,

Swing and a miss.

msage,

There is a distcc/d for having compile hosts with cache, which directly links to just a binary package host - essentially set up flags once, compile everything to your liking, and download within your network.

atzanteol,

You’ve missed my main point by so much if you’re explaining distcc to me.

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

Well it’s the training of LLMs that consumes so much energy, simply using them (for say software development purposes) (inference) probably takes less power than recompiling your Gentoo.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

Nobody can argue that ChromeOS (gentoo) Is the fastest and lightest and more polished distro available, though

skilltheamps, (edited )

Also I think nobody so far weighed the energy consumption of e.g. using copilot against the environmental footprint of a human doing the legwork manually

nivenkos,

This is the new luddite movement.

It really is. Degrowth is destitution and death - just look at Germany.

We need to decouple electricity production from environmental damage - build renewable power and nuclear power station en masse and invest heavily in nuclear fusion.

OKRainbowKid,

Wat

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

The first part is at best controversial. The middle part is actually reasonable. And the last part is just ridiculously random and out-of-touch.

ReveredOxygen,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

Even with infinite free electricity, it still takes tons of water to cool all the gpus

ProgrammingSocks,

Degrowth is a hilarious word to use here because degrowth is literally necessary for us to not run the natural resources of our planet dry. Infinite growth in a finite planet is just logically impossible.

Kacarott,

You really went looking for something to hate on there didn’t you. That is the only sentence in the whole article that even mentions power consumption, all the other arguments both fit and against are for a variety of other topics.

It seems to be that you are more likely caught up in some kind of movement if one argument from one person is enough for you to label everyone there luddites

atzanteol,

You really went looking for something to hate on there didn’t you. That is the only sentence in the whole article that even mentions power consumption, all the other arguments both fit and against are for a variety of other topics.

The rest of the ridiculous moralizing was pretty bad as well. This was just the most egregiously stupid thing listed in the article.

ILikeBoobies,

I thought your comment was more ridiculous

1 person making a query has thousands of hours of computing behind it

1 person compiling software themselves does not

atzanteol,

I’m not saying AI is not energy intensive. I’m saying the team who developed the least efficient Linux distribution throwing shade about AI being “energy inefficient” are hypocrites.

Kacarott,

But again it wasn’t the team, and it wasn’t " throwing shade" it was one guy, who listed it as one reason against AI. Power consumption is also a valid reason against using gentoo. People are able, and indeed should be aware of potential problems and downside of things, even if they are involved in other things which also has those issues. I am sure most of the gentoo team would readily acknowledge that energy consumption is a downside of gentoo compared to other distros.

atzanteol,

Perfect, we agree then

steeznson,

To a certain extent other distros rely on more obscure distros like gentoo which uses package compilation as the default. If upstream are not publishing code which can be reproducibly built then the gentoo maintainers are the first to know and can raise an issue.

atzanteol,

Cool story.

steeznson,

Tell me you don’t know how FOSS works without telling me you don’t know how FOSS works…

atzanteol,

wut? Your reply had absolutely nothing to do with any point or argument I was making. Near as I can tell you think I’m assaulting Gentoo or something? Missed my point by a wide margin though.

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