Kacarott

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Kacarott,

Idk, I think finding an ad stamped on my banknote would probably just sour my opinion of the thing being advertised. Especially if the ink runs and gets on my hands or clothes or something

andersr, to memes Danish

Me BTW I use arch

@memes

Kacarott,

A pro Po, bin ich, auch Arsch.

Why are neurotypicals in charge of making up the social rules? They're not even very good at it.

Edit: A few people have interpreted the title as serious, so I wanna clarify that it was meant as a sarcastic joke about how little sense the neurotypical world makes to me, but it is still legitimately me asking for help understanding said neurotypical world....

Kacarott,

I’m not sure how helpful this will be, but I think it is misleading for you to think of these things as “rules”. Calling them rules implies that people know what they are, and try to abide by them. But I don’t think thats whats happening.

Since written communication conveys so much less emotion than verbal communication, people tend to read more into the textual form to infer things like emotion or intent. There aren’t specific rules for this, people just pick up on patterns. For example angry or excited people tend to use capitals to “sound louder”. People talking casually tend to leave out some grammar. Friendly conversations tend to have more long rambling sentences, as opposed to someone trying to prove a point with concise, well punctuated sentences.

So I think what NTs are doing is just subconsciously figuring out these patterns to determine a likely emotion/intent behind messages.

To me, “K” isn’t rude for the reasons your friend tried to list, but it does sound “colder” to me, probably because my brain sees a pattern where the people who are not interested in talking to me will tend to use short succinct responses, while people happy to talk will use longer form.

But a huge part of communication, especially online, is just getting used to the people you talk to. It’s happened many times that someone who seemed grumpy to me at first turned out to be very friendly, etc.

Kacarott,

I didn’t read into this particular issue, but I know the museum in question, have been there a couple times, so some context:

  • it was founded by some eccentric multi millionaire, who basically just does whatever he wants. The museum was originally free for everyone, until eventually he realised he was draining money really fast, so now it’s only free for locals.
  • the museum changes it’s “theme” somewhat frequently. One time I was there the whole place looked like a grocery store, and the stairs to the actual museum was like hidden away in part of the store.
  • the museum seems to thrive on getting strong reactions from people. Much of the art inside is quite shocking or provocative. They have an app where you can rate how much you like each artwork, and apparently they actively remove artworks which are too universally liked.

So it doesn’t surprise me at all that the museum is trying to be women only, but I really doubt it will be permanent, and I suspect that the strong public reactions is exactly the point.

Kacarott,

I think the intent behind a safe space is that it is separated from potential triggers. So people who were abused by a man may wish to be in a space with no men, since the sight of men might bring up past trauma. Same for people abused by women. Putting men and women together, even though they have all experienced abuse, may still be exposing them all to the same triggers they want to avoid.

Of course all these people have the same right to having safe spaces, but those spaces don’t have to be in the same place.

Kacarott,

Yeah I agree, I wasn’t trying to support having women only museums, just making a point why mixing men and women safe spaces together doesn’t make much sense.

Kacarott,

You make it sound so easy, but mountain lions are notoriously good liars.

Kacarott,

Talos 2 was great. The first game is also incredible if you haven’t played it.

Kacarott,

I would be so curious to see what the player counts of different games were during the 24 hours. Sometimes it feels like there are almost no women playing games, because they (understandably) never use mic

[Serious] Why do so many people seem to hate veganism?

Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don’t come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don’t really get upset by...

Kacarott,

But I mean, that’s literally what their ideas are, how else should they promote them? Are you mad that they aren’t just pretending that meat is good, for the benefit of the listeners?

Kacarott,

I’m not sure why you are making up imaginary arguments. Have you ever heard anyone ever accuse someone else of “not being vegan anymore” because they ate a non vegan product? I know quite a few vegans, I try to be vegan myself (but quite often cave, cheese is delicious), and all the vegans I know would be simply thrilled to know that someone was making an effort at all. Literally no one cares if you aren’t 100% vegan, basically no one is anyway. But if you decide once a week to eat a vegan meal instead of a steak, great!! That’s still helping the planet, better for the animals, etc.

But making up these ridiculous vegan cliches doesn’t help anyone, it just makes more people annoyed at each other.

Kacarott,

I think part of the issue is people tend to conflate “does something immoral/less moral than an alternative” and “is a bad person”.

I think most meat eaters would acknowledge that meat is inherently worse for the environment, and also less moral due to more animal suffering, than not eating meat. Doing so does not make them bad people, just like owning an iPhone doesn’t make someone a bad person, etc. And yet when the topic of "meat is immoral " comes up, people very quickly seem to think it is an accusation of them being a bad person?

Kacarott,

Calling a group of people condescending, then accusing them of having limited brain function is a little hypocritical doncha think?

Kacarott,

I respect your viewpoint, but I wanted to point out that I think the argument of “animals do X, therefore it’s ok” isn’t a really good one, imo. In fact I think one of the features of being human is being able to rise above what other animals do, when we think it is a good idea. (Whether it’s a good idea here though, is another topic)

Kacarott,

I’m not trying to make a case for or against veganism, or hunting. My point is that “we are animals and animals sometimes do X” implying that makes it ok, is bad logic. Animals also sometimes eat their young, or murder or rape other creatures of the same species.

Now like I said, I’m not arguing against or for veganism here, I think there are good arguments for both sides, I just don’t think that the “we are animals” argument is one of them :)

Kacarott,

I think people were playing the game because it was fun and for it’s quality, not for the specifics of its genre/mechanics. If people stop playing helldivers, they will probably look for other high quality, fun games, of which there are plenty.

Kacarott,

Always a nice feeling to take off your facial hair after a long day at work.

Kacarott,

Idk, most people have things they find attractive/unattractive about people. If they specifically match with someone they find attractive, only to find out that the person has deceived them and they are actually unattractive (to them), I think it’s quite reasonable to express distaste about that.

Imagine the same scenario, but with smoking:

“In their profile they said they don’t smoke, but when I turned up to the restaurant they were smoking and their breath smelled like cigarettes! Yuck!”

Would you consider that shallow and phobic?

Kacarott,

While I agree, I am also not sure why vegans are being singled out for this, since I see memes and post shoving leftist politics down people’s throats constantly, and not just in political channels.

It seems that for most people, the throat shoving is only a problem when they disagree with the content, and there are a lot less vegans on Lemmy than leftists.

Kacarott,

In seriousness, the reason people try spread vegan ideas is the exact same reason people try spread their political ideas: because they believe there is injustice in the world which they are trying to help fix.

Kacarott,

It’s much more like politics than it is religion. People take a stance because of their values, ethics, mortality, etc (as opposed to religion which is generally a more irrational basis for belief). And the reasons for being loud about it follow from that.

So if you can understand why someone might proselytize about the situation in Gaza, then you should also understand why someone might proselytize for veganism, even if your views might align differently for different issues.

Kacarott,

I really like the idea to tax each house successively more. And the money made from these taxes could specifically go to the government buying houses and turning them into social housing, or perhaps providing big discounts for first home buyers.

Kacarott,

You really went looking for something to hate on there didn’t you. That is the only sentence in the whole article that even mentions power consumption, all the other arguments both fit and against are for a variety of other topics.

It seems to be that you are more likely caught up in some kind of movement if one argument from one person is enough for you to label everyone there luddites

Kacarott,

But again it wasn’t the team, and it wasn’t " throwing shade" it was one guy, who listed it as one reason against AI. Power consumption is also a valid reason against using gentoo. People are able, and indeed should be aware of potential problems and downside of things, even if they are involved in other things which also has those issues. I am sure most of the gentoo team would readily acknowledge that energy consumption is a downside of gentoo compared to other distros.

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