fkamiah17,
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"The Green Party is becoming a dustbin, a repository not only for climate activists but for disgruntled hard leftists leaving the Labour Party, and some fairly unpleasant Free Palestine activists as well."
Peter Mandelson to Matt Chorley on Times Radio, yesterday

bobjmsn,
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@fkamiah17 Being the opposite of everything Mandelson stands for has to be the greatest boost that the Greens could get to show that they are on the right path!

fkamiah17,
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@bobjmsn And another kick in the balls for Starmer's stated aim to "earn back" the votes he lost because of the genocide.
Not trying very hard, is he.

girlabtvillage,
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@fkamiah17 has he even met any Surrey Greens? They've been busy picking up a load of the NIMBY voters the Tories have abandoned round here, so they're not exactly radical socialists lol

fkamiah17,
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@girlabtvillage From what I've read (admittedly not the most recent manifesto), they're pretty standard, old definition left of centre. Only radical if you're an authoritarian or a fascist.

gruff,
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@fkamiah17 I work in a market town in rural Gloucestershire. A Tory heartland in the shires. I'm engaged with the local community and a small business owner. Like many other Green Party members in our district we stood for election and won 22 seats. We are now the largest group at Stroud District Council.

So, for Mandelson to say that “The Green Party is becoming a dustbin, a repository not only for climate activists, but for disgruntled hard leftists." makes me think that he is so far out of touch with the ethos of the Green Party and the concerns of the electorate that his opinion is completely irrelevant. Maybe it is Mr Mandelson who should be consigned to the dustbin of history?

Thebratdragon,
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@gruff @fkamiah17 better that, than the repository for non entity tories to cross the floor to join that Labour now is.

epistatacadam,
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@Thebratdragon @gruff @fkamiah17 on the basis of the latest recruit JRM is hard left compared to her! And very keen on destroying Trade Unions.
I am always told you can judge a person by the company they keep. Fortunately, here in Wales we have two progressive parties, neither of which are HMG or HMLO.

Wen,

@epistatacadam @Thebratdragon @gruff @fkamiah17 and we have two (don’t count Alba) in Scotland. ABE - anywhere but England.

Thebratdragon,
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@Wen @epistatacadam @gruff @fkamiah17 it is the plan, but affording it is the issue. Rents in the parts I like are higher than my current.

OliverNoble,
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@gruff congratulations on the wins
Many more to come hopefully

mbrmark,
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@gruff @fkamiah17 Scottish Greens will also benefit from the naming of a Free Presbyterian (Kate Forbes) as Deputy First Minister
No sane LGBTQI person will vote SNP again.

fkamiah17,
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@mbrmark @gruff Yeah, that's what I assumed, as one of the only things I knew about her was she's a godder. I can't imagine she's got a particularly enlightened view of abortion either.

hiroji_sergal,
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@fkamiah17 As a former Green Party member and Labour member under Jeremy Corbyn I would have to agree with Peter Mandelson on this point.

This sort of politics isn’t relevant to the UK and I don’t want it taking the attention away from infrastructure, corruption and economics issues.

As an aside I also believe that nuclear energy and GMOs are crucial to our civilisation surviving the climate crisis so I would also disagree with the Green Party on scientific policy.

fkamiah17,
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@hiroji_sergal Exactly which sort of politics is it you're claiming "isn't relevant to the UK" - choosing Greens as an alternative to a pro-genocide party, mainly through paucity of other options?
I don't know enough about the party's scientific policy (although I'm aware they're against nuclear energy, which even Lovelock has changed his mind about, so you've got a point there). As far as GMOs are concerned, I'll reserve judgement - I don't know any examples except Borlock where it's worked.

BashStKid,
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@fkamiah17 Mandelson, showing that it is possible to be a more uninformed dickhead than Galloway.

I’m sure this crap will be recycled through Scottish Labour too.

fkamiah17,
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@BashStKid And Welsh Labour, for that matter. I see Gething's in trouble again ... Three scandals in three weeks is going some.

BashStKid,
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@fkamiah17 Probably, but I live in hope this Westminster barf won’t spread our way.

fkamiah17,
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@BashStKid I think it's too late for that. I had a quick squizz - he's being called out for perjuring himself at the Covid inquiry.

Greenseer,
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@fkamiah17 That's a bit like the poo in the bed decrying the person choosing to kip on the sofa instead 💩

fkamiah17,
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@Greenseer Interesting analogy 🤣

Greenseer,
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@fkamiah17 ..and I just realised that I rhymed again 🤷‍♀️😀

Roadwarrior29,
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@Greenseer @fkamiah17 Yir a poet and didnae know it....🤣👍

fkamiah17,
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@Roadwarrior29 @Greenseer Hmmm ... the metre needs some work 🤭

Greenseer,
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@fkamiah17 @Roadwarrior29 I'll let my muse know 🤨

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