Is Cereal a Soup?
Breakfast cereal served the standard way, in a bowl with cold milk poured on and eaten with a spoon. Does this count as a soup, why or why not? Defend your answer with logic (or emotion, whatever I’m not your dad)
Breakfast cereal served the standard way, in a bowl with cold milk poured on and eaten with a spoon. Does this count as a soup, why or why not? Defend your answer with logic (or emotion, whatever I’m not your dad)
guyrocket, Is a tree stump a chair?
Semantics is the FUN way to question reality.
Cybermonk_Taiji, Are you sitting on it? Could it be sat upon?
Chair confirmed.
rsuri, We create concepts like soup because they’re useful, not because such concepts represent the true underlying state of the universe. So whether a cereal is a soup depends on the reason you care about soups.
massivefailure, No, soups are cereals.
bitwaba, No. Cereals are grasses cultivated for their edible grain: wheat, rye, barley, rice, etc.
Cereals are served with milk. Cereal is not the dish containing milk
rachthegoldberg, a very philosophical question. Like the age old “Are hot dogs sandwiches?” debate
Cybermonk_Taiji, I argue that a hotdog is not a sandwich and the bun is not split through entirely and it is generally presented with the bread to the sides putting it into the roll category. A sandwich has bread spilt entirely through and uses horizontal stacking for assembly
Kufflebuns, You’re right. Hotdogs are tacos.https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0359fa05-2710-4286-8658-a888a2c71f0a.jpeg
AnalogyAddict, You mean like a sub sandwich?
nuggsy, In all fairness, I only know them as subs mainly because of Subway. Before that, I probably would have considered it a roll.
But I am Australian
shinigamiookamiryuu, For those of us who can’t drink milk, it would have no choice but to be.
DestroyerOfWorlds, It’s chowder
Frank_weens, I’d say it is a soup, but I’d also say a smoothie is a soup too.
GeneralEmergency, Unless you’re putting the milk and cereal into a blender. No. Cereal and milk isn’t soup.
Usernameblankface, (edited ) It’s a non-traditional soup usually served cold.
Edit to add logic. There are plenty of milk-based soups, and I don’t think that baking ingredients ahead of time and adding them cold changes the dish from being a soup. Maybe we’re missing out on some delicious hot soup leaving cereal cold?
It’s weird soup, but soup nonetheless.
Delphia, On cold mornings I know people who heat up the milk.
janNatan, I would argue cereal is cold porridge.
cowfodder, According to the cube rule it’s nachos.
DarkThoughts, Why would it be? Soup is made primarily out of vegetables and typically served hot. Honestly, why not just look up "Soup" on Wikipedia or a dictionary.
Usernameblankface, Be vegetables aren’t a defined thing. One marketing push and all of a sudden cereal is technically a vegetable.
DarkThoughts, Uh, no. Vegetables are a defined thing, specifically for culinary purposes.
Num10ck, wow wheat is actually a fruit! TIL
Usernameblankface, Defined how? They’re a grouping of roots, fruits, leaves, and tubers.
DarkThoughts, Through their culinary use in the kitchen. But you're just here arguing about semantics anyway.
Usernameblankface, I realized that I definitely wandered beyond the topic at hand. OP’s whole idea is to argue a culinary term, and “vegetable” is a culinary term.
sushibowl, But you’re just here arguing about semantics anyway.
Well duh, this is a post about the meaning of soup. We’re all here arguing semantics. Anyway, if you can justify the meaning of “vegetable” by its culinary use in the kitchen, then we might as well shortcut this chain of thinking and use that argument directly for soup.
Clearly cereal is not a soup, going by its culinary use in the kitchen.
trolololol, Wait, grains and beans and seeds too.
Btw I have an avocado pit, let me think how to make vegetarian soup with it. Got any recipes??
Susaga, You know, I was originally on team “yes”, but this changed my mind.
Apeman42, Chowder. Gazpacho.
shininghero, Needs more vegetables, meat, and salt to be a soup. But by that logic, you could call the ocean a soup.
ccunning, vegetables, meat, and salt
I knew vegetarian soup was bullshit!
enjoytemple, I mean if we go further that way then a swimming pool is also a soup.
musicmind333, @enjoytemple @Cybermonk_Taiji if it's a toddler swimming class and there's a bunch of babies wearing diapers, does it make it a dumpling soup?
enjoytemple, Dumplings from time to time bring their own (pool) noodles too.
bitwaba, “a hot tub is just people soup”
Matticus, It’s starchy chunks in a dairy based broth, so chowder.
mynachmadarch, I think most people categorize chowder under the soup umbrella though.
SkyezOpen, As long as it’s hot and soupy, I consider it a soup, unless it’s more of a stew. Actually no, stew could be considered a subset of soup. That means I also don’t recognize gazpacho as soup.
bitwaba, What if you heat up the gazpacho?
SkyezOpen, Then you have a warm vegetable smoothie. I think cooking is important. But I guess stove top gazpacho would count then. But so would an actual fruit smoothie thrown in a pot, and I don’t like that idea. And I guess cereal too. Christ.
My internal inconsistencies leave me confused, I’m going to rethink my life over a bowl of what may or may not be soup.
runner_g, Is tomato bisque a soup or a warm vegetable smoothie?
SkyezOpen, It’s got sea bugs in it so it’s not only veggies.
yum, I’ve learnt three words today
neidu2, I choose to believe they are “In”, “a”, and “so”
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Here's three more fun words (fun to say in my opinion):
Aglet
Plethora
And
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PsychedSy, I learned what aglet was from a piracy check back in the day.
SkyezOpen, How dare you exclude lagubrious
mynachmadarch, We're in a real quagmire now I'd say. Do I list all the fun words and let someone experience the qualia of them all?
Acamon, I very much enjoyed A G L E T. Thank you.
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mynachmadarch, Why did I actually listen to the whole thing? Lol.
First I'm gonna learn ya some
And then I'll leave ya.
MelodiousFunk, Why did I actually listen to the whole thing? Lol.
Because you had nothing better to do while waiting for the bus.
First I’m gonna learn ya some
…now I know
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