Teekeeus,

What if the samson option involves using nukes on european or american cities out of spite

EmmaGoldman,
@EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net avatar

What do you mean, “what if?” That’s always been the entire point.

Israeli foreign policy is holding the world hostage to demand endless shipments of weapons and support, because they’ll irreparably damage the planet if placed into a losing position.

queermunist, (edited )
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Irreparably damage the NATO bloc, maybe.

DyingOfDeBordom,

I thought that was the point, if Israel falls so does the fucking world

Des,
@Des@hexbear.net avatar

it’s funny how they tried to make us quake in fear over the threat of “rouge states” (aka North Korea, Iran, once Iraq, libya, now russia) all of them, besides Russia, don’t have the capability of ending civilization and unlike Russia, dont have a policy specifically to do it as a big “fuck you” to the rest of the world if they don’t get their way

i’m seriously, 100% scared deep in my bones israel will do a Samson-option like strike if they undergo a sudden internal collapse, which at this point is far more likely then the U.S. the U.S., while not having this policy, i do believe would absolutely do the same thing which is why i am far more leery about calls for civil war or balkanization because i fear for the rest of the world

but israel keeps me up at night. if the concept of a true “rouge state” to the international order or whatever was real every nation on earth would be forming a coalition to invade and pacify israel and use a massive combined special operations mission to secure the nukes and kill/capature all their political and military leadership. like a joint global U.N. military operation the likes the world has never seen. blockades, deployment of every anti-missile weapon system known to man, total communicaiton blackouts, and possibly even preemptive nuclear decapitation strikes with stealth cruise missiles.

whatever it takes. we unite against this threat.

but instead the west pretends this nation with 300+ secret fission-fusion weapons is moral and rational

sometimes i wonder if there is a more “realist” minority contingent in the U.S. military-political blob that is letting israel do whatever it wants and keeps them placated not out of ideological commitment to zionist but knowing they have a rabid and violent animal on a rusting chain and know they can do nothing to stop it

sir_this_is_a_wendys,
@sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net avatar

Nuke Lindsey instead

Diuretic_Materialism,

Would it be possible to make a nuke small enough to kill just one person soviet-hmm

buckykat,

Give Lindsey Graham a demon core

barrbaric,
radiofreeval,
@radiofreeval@hexbear.net avatar

God damnit I was just about to post that

barrbaric,

Fastest fingers in the west howdy-skull

Diuretic_Materialism,

As yes nuking a territory right next to your own holdings that you intend to occupy after conquering. Surely settlers will want to move into irradiated land and the winds will never blow east towards Tel Aviv!

Fascists aren’t even good at doing fascism, Jesus!

Roonerino,

You misunderstand. He’s not trying to do fascism, he’s a member of the evangelical Christian doomsday cult cheering for the apocalypse.

came_apart_at_Kmart,

it’s an important distinction, between Christian-Zionism and Israeli-Zionism that seems to be lost or purposely obscured by democrats:

  • Israeli-Zionism is settler-colonial and wants to exterminate the indigenous…
  • Christian-Zionism wants the entire world to burn in a nuclear Holocaust right after Jesus comes back in a magic Ford SUV and drives all 1200 people at their specific megachurch to heaven, where they can eagerly watch everyone else writhe in agony forever.

imagine forming a coalition with the heavily armed and powerful people who pray for your eternal torment.

Frank,
@Frank@hexbear.net avatar

I’ve had a couple of frustrating experiences lately trying to explain what a vile, empty mockery of religion Christian Fascists are and to no one’s surprise Europeans who have never dealt with them face to face are unable to accept my explanations and insist that i’m mistaken and there must be hidden depths and human sentiment there.

Diuretic_Materialism,

I… would still consider that fascism.

Regardless, I would think even then he’d understand why Israel wouldn’t want to nuke something right next to them. Fuck why not advocate for nuking Iran that at least seems a bit more plausible and just as likely to lead to the end times.

brainw0rms,
@brainw0rms@hexbear.net avatar

Evangelicals don’t give a damn about Israel or Jews in general, so I don’t think he’s really taking their motivations or longevity into account. They (evangelicals) believe the existence of the nation of Israel and its subsequent total destruction are prerequisites for the Christian apocalypse/rapture. That’s his only goal. I sorta agree that viewing this through a “fascism” lens isn’t really helpful for understanding how people like Lindsey Graham think.

Diuretic_Materialism,

I find it so weird that Evangelicals want to BRING ABOUT the apocalypse. Plenty of other religions believe in an “end time”, but you don’t see this kind of behavior from Jews, Muslims or even most older Christian sects. They all accept God is a being so powerful and all knowing that understanding his grand plans is impossible and you are just gonna have to accept the end times will come about when God wills it and just live you life as best you can till them.

Evangelicals want to be able to not just predict, but incite the apocalypse. Like what if they think they don’t put the leg work in Gods grand plan is gonna get totally derailed and reality will have to keep chugging along a few thousand years past schedule? Gods gonna be PISSED if I don’t get the US to nuke Iran, it will fuck up his whole timetable!

Frank,
@Frank@hexbear.net avatar

Christian Fascism is defined by almost complete lack of theology or scholarship, and for being extremely schismatic to a farcical degree. It’s a religion of the id, of the pure libido of the American white suburban aggrieved peitit boug psychopath. It’s all about petty greed and spite and personal wish fulfillment.

TechnoUnionTypeBeat,
@TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net avatar

It also runs completely counter to the stated goal of their religion

The bible is pretty clear that the end time is unknowable and until then humans have to be good stewards of the planet. Trying to bring about the apocalypse isn’t exactly good stewardship

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