Fox News host Greg Gutfeld erupted with dark rhetoric during Thursday’s broadcast of “The Five,” appearing to advocate for a new American civil war because “elections don’t work” and the nation is in “peril and chaos," the Daily Beast reports.
So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.
The wisdom of Voltaire is always worth being reminded of.
Our electoral system (USA) is a failure, but using that as “proof” elections don’t work is kind of like trying to use the fact that you can’t run Baldur’s Gate 3 on an Apple II as “proof” that computing doesn’t work. It’s not a serious argument, it’s admission of a personal thirst for authoritarianism. Anyone who wants to lick boots is welcome to hire a dominatrix and leave the rest of us out of it.
Someone should really put a stop to fox news, by the way. It’s a little weird that there’s like a mass shooting every day but no one has like gunned down Fox news hosts in the parking lot or anything.
The mass shooters come from the pool of Fox News viewers. Dollars to donuts, if Fox News tried a segment tasked with deprogramming the hell spawn they created, the crazies would target the host in a heartbeat.
Honestly we should unite and perform a coordinated attack on fox news, the same way that anonymous took over russian news stations, russian sites, and even hacked russian GPS.
This isn’t just a case of freedom of speech, this is mobilising, terrorising and seditious speaking. The US government themselves know best just how powerful this propaganda is, as they’ve used it themselves against many governments. They’re doing the exact same thing at fox news.
Look into the Jakarta method, a book written about how the US government destabilised and dissected government’s that they viewed as hostile and communist.
We have known for a long time that fox news creates soviet style propaganda, but now, with Russia being hostile and China semi-hostile, surely they’re trying to destabilise at best, start a civil war at worst. Why doesn’t the USA do anything to stop this clear and obvious cooperation with the enemy?
Freedom of speech is not freedom to incide sedition. It doesn’t protect people from convincing traitor’s to pick up their weapons. Fox news should never have won that lawsuit where they claimed “no rational person would believe it” because that’s irrelevant. A good portion of Americans (30%+) are irrational. So why discount them? It’s like saying “only a criminal would shoot someone if we paid them to do it, therefore when we pay them to do it, it’s not our fault”. Well yeah, only a criminal would do it, but you still paid them!
I have a question, how can this be legal? How can this guy say this crazy shit and not being immediately fired and banned from television? It’s just unbelievable to my European eyes
Well, to my European eyes it’s not strange at all. These are some extreme takes but that’s how freedom of expression and press work. My European country has a politician with decades-long career who routinely claims democracy is a bad system, that women should not be allowed to vote etc. Luckily for us the man has near-zero actual power, but still, we can’t jail him for talking even if what he says is horrifying.
The ring wing media circuit has consisted on shock jocks on local AM radio networks that became increasingly popular and mainstream throughout the 90s. It’s no coincidence that’s when theGOP started to radicalize.
I, a Liberal and 2a supporter, do not think the left is armed and willing to fight. The party of frappucinos and e-bikes? Come on. “Guns are scary” is a central tenet of the Democratic Party.
Oh don’t think for one second that they actually want a civil war. A civil war is fought by sides that have fundamental differences in how they want the government to function. Conservatives don’t really have any idea how or if they want the government to function. Because if you sit a bunch of conservatives down in a conference room and talk them through their ideal government, writing it all down and asking questions like, “but what if the president is corrupt?” Or “how do we ensure safe, clean drinking water?” they’d wind up basically with what we have now (but maybe with states having more power but maybe even less).
When conservatives barf up words like, “civil war” it’s really just a dog whistle. What they really want is an excuse to commit mass murder of black people, immigrants, LGBTQ, etc (all the people they hate and blame for all the problems they create or refuse to fix).
Here’s how it would play out: A consensus forms in the conservative crazysphere that civil war is a must then some event happens and the talking heads will declare, “it’s a civil war!” and then the crazies with guns will congregate go on a killing spree.
If law enforcement stops them it will end, briefly before it happens again. If law enforcement helps them it’ll be a real civil war. That’s when things will become real bad for Americans. Severe economic consequences; the dollar will tank. Food and supply shortages will create a lot of desperate people.
Foreign governments will probably straight up invade and claim territories under the excuse of “keeping things stable” (for their own economies).
Billionaires will just move to other countries but they’ll lose probably 90% of their wealth. If they’re caught undefended out in the open they probably won’t make it. Their assets would be siezed by any territories claimed by democratic (aka “liberal”) groups in order to fund the war. Mere millionaires will find their wealth disappear overnight. They’ll probably try to pass themselves off as middle class for as long as they can… Moving in with family, forced to abandon their mansions.
The rich that sided with the liberals (e.g. celebrities that are easily identified as liberal) will fair the best amongst the wealthy in democratic strongholds.
I was pretty much with you until you got to foreign powers invading. Seems unlikely. At worst, we’d end up with the two strongest armies on earth (both American) fighting each other. I can’t think of another country on earth who would think it worth it to cross an ocean and occupy the territory. If he have a civil war, there’s a good chance China will try and take Taiwan, but I don’t see California, or even Hawaii, as worth invading in terms of RoI, economic or political.
You assume the locals wouldn’t welcome a foreign power lending their military might. You think Maine’s local military strength would be enough to fend off the Massachusetts Liberal Liberation Army?
With no central government America’s states would become clusters of alliances and those that did not wish to join may have few options.
Fox, I know you are a pathetic pandering shit network, but you can maybe censor your lunatics when they start foaming at the mouth at least. I mean, even my parents are disgusted by this.
I got the same feeling a lot with Tucker, where he’d say something so specific and so contrary to reality, that there must have been a point to it. I think a part of it is to inoculate the audience against criticism, doubt, and introspection. You flip around, or simply bring up and immediately dismiss what’s actually a strong argument against your position, so that people don’t take it seriously when it comes up outside of the echo chamber.
We had a Democrat president promise that he was going to be moderate, promise that he was gonna unite the country and now we have a terrible education system.
WTF has Trump done to political discourse in America? This guy is doing exactly what Trump does. Say something that sounds like a sentence that’s making a point, but if you go back and look at it written down, it’s really just noises surrounding keywords.
The only possible link between poor education and Biden uniting the country is if Biden compromised with some Republican who is trying to gut our schools. (I don’t know whether he did or not.)
It’s Republicans who are working against education. Trump wanted to get rid of the Department of Education. DeSantis got in a war with the AP program over teaching American History, and turned back LGBTQ+ progress for Florida high schoolers 50 years. The Republican party of Texas once published that it was their platform to make sure that children didn’t learn critical thinking, because that would interfere with the parents’ rights to always choose what is best for their kids.
Over and over, it’s Republicans working to harm our education system, and Democrats working to improve it.
Not to mention the ludacris statement that we have no border lmao. Such hyperbole. Border arrests have literally hit highs since Biden has been in office.
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