feditips, (edited )
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

(Fediverse survey post, asking people to click on a web link to a Mastodon post and say what their app does with it.)

UPDATE: Aaaarrgghhhhhhh! 😱 I had a number of people asking me for clarification of the poll, so I edited option wording, but this caused it to reset the responses to zero. I am so sorry! 🥴

The latest figures before I messed this up were this:

About 75% of people clicking on a link to a Mastodon post saw it displayed a normal post, 25% saw it displayed in a browser window.

AutisticMumTo3,
@AutisticMumTo3@leftist.network avatar

@feditips
I get a message asking me which of my accounts to open the status with or an emulation of an account on the instance in question. I'm using Subway Tooter.

feditips, (edited )
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

p.s. I've never edited a poll wording before, did not know it resets it without warning.

Really sorry to everyone who voted, thank you for taking part 🙏

UPDATE: Have put a warning about this onto the FediTips website at https://fedi.tips/how-to-post-a-poll-on-mastodon/

Also, there's apparently already an issue about this on Github at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/24997

grant_h,
@grant_h@mastodon.social avatar

@feditips The joy of the fediverse is that it is still mostly human - in the best way. You can run a biggish account, and still be a human being, not an anonymous corporate machine.
Long may that last!

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@grant_h

Yeah, have to stay humble and keep learning! 👍

grant_h,
@grant_h@mastodon.social avatar

@feditips Both here and in real life!

gunchleoc,
@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot avatar

@feditips this is actually not a bug. When you edit a poll option or the post containing a poll, you can make people vote for the opposite of what they actually voted for.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@gunchleoc

I agree, can definitely see the potential for abuse with editing.

But some warning about the poll resetting would have been appreciated! I would have avoided editing it if I'd known 😅

illumniscate,
@illumniscate@mastodon.education avatar

@feditips @gunchleoc

Or warning the voters that it has been changed and to vote again if still applicable?

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@illumniscate @gunchleoc

Yup, warning for poster or notification for responders...

Having said that, there's currently no way of altering your vote, so a warning might be easier to implement?

gunchleoc,
@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot avatar

@illumniscate @feditips Warning the voters won't work if you manipulate it 1 minute before the poll ends.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@gunchleoc
@illumniscate

Good point... I guess warning poll creator of reset would be simplest?

gunchleoc,
@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot avatar

@feditips @illumniscate Yep, warning for reset 👍

illumniscate,
@illumniscate@mastodon.education avatar

@gunchleoc @feditips

I meant that the votes would still be removed. So there would be no incentive to manipulate the poll. But the voters would be warned that: "hey, the poll you voted on previously has been changed – do you want to vote again?"

gunchleoc,
@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot avatar

@illumniscate That makes sense - we could change the notification texts for edited posts when the post contains a poll.

@feditips did you file an issue, or shall I?

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar
gunchleoc,
@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot avatar

@feditips Thanks! I have added @illumniscate's suggestion to the discussion in the issue.

gunchleoc,
@gunchleoc@mastodon.scot avatar

@feditips Yes, a warning sounds good to me.

iDGS,
@iDGS@mas.to avatar

@feditips Related? As a voter I’ve sometimes seen long, wordy options that are truncated on mobile before I can see what differentiates one from another. There’s no way I know of to inspect the full text of the label. Maybe some clever person could make that enhancement? As it stands, touching any option (hoping to see full text) results in an instant and irrevocable choice, and one still has no idea what they’ve voted for.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@iDGS

What are you using to view them on mobile? An app? A web browser?

iDGS,
@iDGS@mas.to avatar

@feditips app: Ivory for Mastodon
browser: iOS Safari

tallship,
@tallship@social.sdf.org avatar

@feditips

It actually stands to reason; people often find after they publish a poll that they could have worded a question or option better, then try, then discover that the meaning of the question or option now takes on a new defining intent - that's unacceptable manipulation, whether intentional or not.

When you start a DM, won't let you add/remove addressees; last time I checked, mastodon will - it shouldn't that's a potential breech of privacy & security.

.

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@tallship

Agreed, but it should warn people about editing options resetting the results automatically?

Especially as editing the main post doesn't reset results?

ShredderFeeder,
@ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.com avatar

@feditips It makes sense…someone could start a poll asking if people were for or against Puppies….then edit the poll to for or against Nazis….

For the record, I’m pro Puppy, anti Nazi.

pavlovscat,

@feditips opens the post in new in a new window in the app not in the main timeline (Tusker) but doesn’t open a browser.

Joe_Hill,
@Joe_Hill@union.place avatar

@feditips It opens in a browser looking window within the app. I’m using the standard Mastodon app.

davewordnerd,
@davewordnerd@masto.ai avatar

@feditips The app works just fine. The link opens in the app, just as I would expect it to.

TomasHradcky,
@TomasHradcky@musicians.today avatar

@feditips I just switched settings. It now opens in this app.

RonniesaurusHex,
@RonniesaurusHex@disabled.social avatar

@feditips

FediLab. Opens in a browser window. In app browser not selected.

fredbrehm,

@feditips it opens in the app but as a guest user. The back button goes someplace strange but the done button takes me back to the right place

BogLoper,

@feditips opened in this: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@obster/111057609548281707 not Mastodon app.uk, my home app. It also wanted

adenette,

@feditips opens in app but that instance of the app is not logged in

tekmyndaspy,

@feditips for me, it opens a browser page within the app. i'm not sure of the significance of that, or what category in the poll it belongs to. i put down "other" since i wasn't quite sure which to put.

daiversity,

@feditips It opens as a normal post on the app but with a small difference: before showing the post of the link a message appears at the bottom that says "performing a lookup...".
I'm using Tusky.

bonn2,

@feditips opens in app, Megalodon, with Mastodon Redirect installed

feditips,
@feditips@mstdn.social avatar

@bonn2

Is Mastodon Redirect part of Megalodon or a separate add-on? Haven't heard that before.

bonn2,

@feditips it is an app on F-Droid that registers link handlers on android for pretty much all known mastodon instances and redirects them to your chosen app when you click them from anywhere within android. (Think a link shared over discord or some other social media)
Obligatory link: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/dev.zwander.mastodonredirect

doqunbop,
@doqunbop@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@feditips Trunks on Android shows it both as a quote toot, but also resolves the link and shows the post in-app when following the link.

mackayim2022,
@mackayim2022@mastodon.social avatar

@feditips I'm using the Elk App on Android, but the link opens Mastodon in a browser window.

AntoineD,

@mackayim2022 @feditips

Hello, you can use this app for open all fediverse link in Elk :
https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/dev.zwander.mastodonredirect/

lerekofatwgo,

@feditips

Using Megalodon. Opens like a normal post with a second or two of delay, and a small pop-up with the option to open in a browser. If you leave it alone it loads the post.

kunalagrawal,

@feditips Official Mastodon App, the link opens in browser. (Android)

bgtlover,

@feditips when on fedilab, it does. When I'm on, say, tusky, it doesn't

stevencworlds,
@stevencworlds@mstdn.social avatar

@feditips using the default mastodon app. Opens in my Firefox browser.

Running iOS 16 on iPad Pro

falafelisking,

@feditips
I use Megalodon & it shows this on my Android 13:

Casper042,
@Casper042@mastodon.social avatar

@feditips It opened in my default mobile browser, BUT I specifically turned off the built in browser previously.

juandesant,
@juandesant@astrodon.social avatar

@feditips opens natively in the app in @ivory

fmfoo,

@feditips opens another version of the app which I'm not signed in to

WhombeX,
@WhombeX@bne.social avatar

@feditips Ice Cubes show the link as a post when touched. This app also embeds the toot like a retweet.

Mohandas,

@feditips It came up with 'looking up post on kolektiva.social' then loaded it in the app.

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