Like, I wouldn't let that go unsupervised with a small kid, because who knows what direction that steers eventually, but it sounds like a fun, creative activity. If you're not gonna sit down and do that yourself (or if your kid thinks the talking computer is cooler than you, which is entirely possible), that still sounds better than... you know, staring at random clips on Youtube Kids, which is a thing that people let kids do, somehow.
@MudMan@badlogic random YouTube clips still at least theoretically have some oversight function built into them. Also "this is probably not worse than the worst thing which has existed until now" is not especially compelling
Look, parenting is hard enough, I get why parents want to give kids a toy they just need to be within earshot of instead of actively engaged with. I don't think making up stories by bouncing back and forth with a computer is a particularly bad idea at all. Like many tech toys you still want to be aware and paying attention, but while this sounds worse than doing it yourself it seems actively fine otherwise.
@MudMan@badlogic tbqh the actual live action stuff that people do for toddlers on youtube is pretty much equally weird and terrifying to the generated stuff, at least now that the elsa spider stuff has been dealt with
apropos of nothing, interesting to me that in star trek, holodeck programs always have a sentient author. they never just tell the computer to make it up
That's extremely not true about the Holodeck. People ask it to come up with stuff on the spot all the time. Famously the thing makes up a sentient supervillain in response to the prompt "create an opponent that can defeat Data" on a Sherlock Holmes setting.
If nothing else, you can be amazed that Trek predicted generative AI hallucinating horrific stuff that far ahead.
@MudMan@badlogic iirc every time this happens it's a plot element which spells disaster for the unlucky holodeck participant, which is somewhat of a counterargument
@chriscunningham@badlogic
Well, it's a TV show, "Riker goes to the holodeck and has a fun time" isn't exactly compelling storytelling.
Most of the holodeck episodes include some deadly malfunction or another. It once creates a virus that somehow spreads to everybody (not even on a prompt, it's just reproducing a place), it creates sentience multiple times, with villains injuring and kidnapping people each time, both prompted and authored... it's a mess. Because TV.
@MudMan@badlogic Another factor that sadly has to be taken into account: Capitalism and Wage Labor.
The 40h work week was designed for one parent to work and the other to take care of the household. Now many couples have to work 40hs each, at least.
So many current parents can't give their kids what they deserve anymore, due to being overworked and completely drained.
Real parenting would be preferred, but the AI is at least better than getting no attention.
@badlogic@etherbloom
Hi judgemental parent, it sure seems like you're fun at playdates.
I mean, again, usupervised and as a "get your kid to fall asleep" tool it's probably not what I'd do and 3 years old seems a bit young for it.
As a daytime creative activity to run under supervision and with a slightly older kid, it seems actually cool. Definitely not even in the top ten things people do with kids that has "no excuse" or is "a bit insane", especially when it comes to computers.
@badlogic@etherbloom
Yes, I noticed. But there has to be a gradient of outrage here. There's a big difference between "hey, you're jumping the gun about this and I would recommend you only let them use it under supervision anyway" and "completely unjustifiable bad parenting".
Aaand it's a bit of outrage bait around ML that is building into a feeding frenzy and in turn leading us to unintended consequences that hand the keys of the tech to big corporations, but that's a bigger conversation.
@MudMan@etherbloom agree on the gradient, not sure I can follow the other tangent.
That said, I viewed it within the context of "how to bring your kid to bed" and I personally think using GPT for that with a 3 year old is indeed bad parenting. Yes, that is a judgement ¯\(ツ)/¯
@badlogic@MudMan I think we have a misunderstanding, as I agree with you(on this not being a valid excuse).
Sorry if my toot sounded like I made assumptions about your economic situation, as that was not my intention
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