Radical_EgoCom,
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Capitalism functions seamlessly in exploiting individuals. The deliberate imposition of financial insecurity leaves people weary and preoccupied with the fear of poverty. This state of perpetual exhaustion and concern over income loss creates a vulnerable populace, making it convenient for those in power to exploit and underpay them. Relentless struggle for needs and fear of homelessness distracts the working class from challenging a system thriving on worker exhaustion.

DEDGirl,
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@Radical_EgoCom Wouldn’t it be better for capitalism if the $ they did give people actually put a roof over your head & contribute the economy, & let you raise children with basics for survival, instead of giving people just enough to NOT have a roof & make children suffer in fear & instability, hate America, & leave?!? Forcing births isn’t going to make a slave labor class, it’s going to build revolutionaries. 🤷‍♀️ You need to be homeless for aid, but not enough aid for a home. 🤦‍♀️🤮

Radical_EgoCom,
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@DEDGirl Would it be better for Capitalism? No, since the primary goal of Capitalism is the profit motive; that's what keeps the Capitalist machine moving, and is why Capitalism is so horrible. The more workers get compensated for their work the less Capitalist get, which they don't like. They always make sure to pay workers as little as possible; they'd pay us nothing if they could get away with it.

DEDGirl,
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@Radical_EgoCom right, but they require the labor & product. People without stability aren’t as productive.

Radical_EgoCom,
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@DEDGirl What Capitalism also requires is destitution, desperation, and poverty. Capitalist will provide stability, but only so long as people remain impoverished enough to be able to be coerced into working for them, so the workers suffering will never end so long as the live under the iron fist of Capitalism.

DEDGirl,
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@Radical_EgoCom I know. I’m saying, it’s not working how they really want, because there will force a revolution. If they weren’t as greedy, they could keep people under their boot & building capital for them, with minimal unrest. They think it’ll last, but it won’t.

zrb,
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@DEDGirl @Radical_EgoCom nothing but a dumb collection of many independent actors whose only common incentive is self-enrichment and greed.

Capitalism is an inherently unsustainable system of economics; without constant maintenance it leads to its own downfall and replacement by fomenting neofeudalism, fascism, or revolutionary upheaval.

zrb,
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@DEDGirl @Radical_EgoCom I don't think many people sit down in a room and plot out how best to perpetuate the accumulation of capital and worsening of inequality (except for #economists, who can ALL #logoff). These traits just arise from the organic actions of the system as its components each work to enrich themselves.

gcvsa,
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@Radical_EgoCom This is 100% false. In Economics, the return to Capital is "Interest". "Rent" is the return to Land. Capitalism is not the problem, Capitalism is the solution. All of the problems your post describes are attributable not to Capital, but to Landownership. The Landlord is the true enemy, not the Capitalist.

AdrianRiskin,
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@gcvsa @Radical_EgoCom how does capitalism solve the landlord problem?

Radical_EgoCom,
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@AdrianRiskin @gcvsa
It doesn't. That person's just a Capitalism stan. That's why I blocked them.

AdrianRiskin,
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@Radical_EgoCom I mean, it's one of the most unique takes I've seen on here, or anywhere for that matter, about capitalism so I'd like to hear the details.

joesabin,
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@AdrianRiskin @Radical_EgoCom Once blocked they likely can't see these responses. They are correct, capitalism isn't the problem it is being assigned here. What capitalism does is efficiently distributes products and services. Governments overseeing businesses need to establish regulations to protect workers from abuses. Governments in the US/UK have not done this since the Reagan/Thatcher love affair of the 1980s. Demand more regulations and unions.

AdrianRiskin,
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@joesabin @Radical_EgoCom Lol governments haven't done that since forever. Reagan/Thatcher wasn't anything new. The main function of government is to facilitate the capitalist exploitation of the working class. Not only have governments never overseen businesses they never will. It's not what governments do.

Capitalism doesn't do anything other than violently coerce working people (= anyone who's not a capitalist) into working for wages rather than for subsistence.

joesabin,
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@AdrianRiskin @Radical_EgoCom You're not serious right? Labor laws, minimum wage, overtime, OSHA in the US. Just to name a few. Reagan started the push in the US to weaken regulations.

HeavenlyPossum,
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@AdrianRiskin @Radical_EgoCom @joesabin

These are steps the state takes to ensure that labor will retain the bare minimum to reproduce itself and provide future workers (and even that is too much for some capitalists).

These are not things the state does to take care of workers; these are things workers created for themselves that the state allows them to keep.

AdrianRiskin,
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HeavenlyPossum,
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pleaseclap,
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@joesabin @AdrianRiskin @Radical_EgoCom Wow you're gonna just let Capitalism take credit for all of that Socialism? Weak, soggy bottom. They only did it to prevent peasant revolts and it looks like it worked

violetmadder,
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@AdrianRiskin @joesabin @Radical_EgoCom

I wanna read the convo but I can only see your posts one at a time if I dig in your post&reply history. That's one thing that's always confused me about Mastodon, the actual behavior of blocking is weird.

AdrianRiskin,
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@violetmadder @joesabin @Radical_EgoCom it is very weird indeed.

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