MartinVeart,
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The closer politicians come to power, the more hawkish they become. The SNP switched to supporting NATO membership in the run up to Indyref. After leading the protests against the invasion of Iraq, the Lib Dems backed the UK bombing of Syria (why for God’s sake?) and now Labour cannot act like decent human beings and call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza. What gets into leaders that they feel they have to be seen to act tough? Most would respect more leaders that act tough for peace.

Wen,
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@MartinVeart I have sympathy with the SNP on NATO. And believe that event prove them correct. Hang together or be hung separately. The opthers not at all.

MartinVeart,
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@Wen @MartinVeart There was nothing wrong at that time with the SNP’s stance on neutrality, in the vein of Ireland and Sweden. Even a Finnish solution, accommodating some existing military bases, would have been pragmatic. Joining NATO, a nuclear-based alliance, directly contradicts the stance on Trident and sparked some very honourable resignations. Franklin’s phrase in this context is misapplied: there was no one out to hang anyone, which was literally the threat to American revolutionaries.

Wen,
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@MartinVeart What have Finland and Sweden done then?

MartinVeart,
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@Wen @MartinVeart which wasn’t done in 2012. There wasn’t even any war in Ukraine until 2014.

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