@Montrealmarc Apparently OKO will be out within the next 3 months. I'll be keeping an eye on this. We'll see how it goes. It will need a lot of improvements to work with our lights. Blind people will have to realize that they can't totally rely on it. At least if it hasn't changed very much from the beta. I like OKO I'm not trying to sound negative. I just think it needs a lot of work in order for it to be useful in Canada.