luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

Data/surveillance/payment systems mystery:

  1. Google's payment systems regularly require me to regularly re-identify myself to them at the "picture of passport" level. No other online payment provider has this problem with me.
    .2 The passport office, on my last renewal, required surprising-to-the-clerk, mysterious, time-consuming, additional checks with a system in DC.
    (🧵)
luis_in_brief,
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  1. Two weeks ago, becoming a signer on a small business account at BMO: no problem. Yesterday, same at BOA: at great mystification to the bank's systems guy, my SSN was rejected repeatedly and eventually they said they couldn't put me on the account until they saw my actual SSN card.

Recurring pattern: unclear if the humans involved (bank clerks, Google folks, passport) can't tell me because it's secret in some way, or simply because it is so rare they don't know.

(🧵)

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

So: anyone have any theories on why this is happening?

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

other details, maybe relevant?

  • My suffix ("IV") sometimes confuses systems.
  • Same systems sometimes confuse me with my dad (Jr.)
  • I am boring enough that, other than generic online EFF-style civil libertarianism, there shouldn't be any criminal or similar records (though I've never done a FOIA to confirm?)
  • My dad was told by the passport office in the 1970s that Carlos The Jackal (about dad's age/appearance) once used a pseudonym similar to Luis Villa.
billseitz,
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@luis_in_brief your dad's II and you're IV? What happened to III?

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@billseitz American immigration :) his grandfather, “I”, passed before they emigrated to the US, so when “II” and “III” entered the US together, II → (null) and III → Jr. So at my birth, in the US, I got the numerically accurate IV but my dad never “fixed” Jr.→ III.

(Note that none of I-III ever used those numerals; that’s an Americanism. My son, returning to that, is Luis but not V. We screwed him a different way by giving him a hyphenated last name and raising him on his middle name…)

mattdm,
@mattdm@hachyderm.io avatar

@luis_in_brief

  1. Identity theft.
  2. Someone else with same name got on some list.

There is someone in Florida with the same name and birthday as my wife, and who apparently strives to live up to stereotypes of Florida. This occasionally causes similar things.

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@mattdm How did you debug/diagnose the problem with your wife?

rcarback,
@rcarback@freeradical.zone avatar

@luis_in_brief Do you do anything in crypto? It's not uncommon for a FinCEN flag to get set if an account tied to you touched another flagged address in some way and they attach that association to your real identity through kyc at an exchange.

The passport thing I have not heard of before, could it be an identity theft thing?

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@rcarback good question re crypto! No.

I don't think I've been the victim of any identity theft, other than generic "of course everyone's everything has been hacked". I wonder if maybe at some point I turned on some extra identity protection in some of the credit monitoring systems? But one would hope that would trigger problems for both banks 😬

katanova,
@katanova@social.coop avatar

@luis_in_brief
All these events suggest some kind of severe security threat flag. "Name matches known terrorist" kind of thing.

You could try signing up for TSA pre-check, and see if they tell you why your name is suddenly so hot.

Ultimately, the only way to find out is to put yourself through a government system and hope that someone actually tells you.

LouisIngenthron,
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@katanova @luis_in_brief Could also try buying a firearm at a licensed dealer and seeing what that instant background check turns up.

luis_in_brief,
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@LouisIngenthron @katanova creative! Though my neighborhood gun shop closed a few years ago and I suspect the next one is a loooooong way away…

LouisIngenthron,
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@luis_in_brief @katanova Ah, right. Here in Florida, most convenience stores have a gun aisle (not really).

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@LouisIngenthron @katanova I miss home!

(narrator: he did not miss home, especially not the mosquitoes, humidity, and guns)

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@katanova Oh, pre-check is a good idea. I suspect I’ll get quietly rejected, but maybe they’ll share enough I can debug.

synlogic,
@synlogic@toot.io avatar

@luis_in_brief maybe something related to Tidelift and US/West sanctions against Russia, Iran, Hamas. not saying you are involved with latter, obvs, only that if there is unkbeknownst to you a sanctioned individual or entity with same name it might trigger extra scrutiny behind scenes, that a vendor has to act on lest they get in legal trouble. In the last week a new batch of sanctions went into effect or at least got signed into law

theory. obvs could be wrong

luis_in_brief,
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@synlogic creative, though the passport and Google problems were pre-current-round-of-sanctions (pre-pandemic). Still, wonder how I’d test that.

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