daniel, (edited )
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Could you land an airliner in an emergency?

neuronenstern,
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@daniel I know that this is not representative but kind of interesting that 45% of your bubble is confident landing an airliner :-)

daniel,
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@neuronenstern haha either my bubble is very knowledgeable or very overconfident!

funkyboy,

@daniel I had to debug AutoLayout code in the past, so emergency landing is gonna be a piece of cake 😂

RobW,
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  • nicklockwood,
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    @RobW @daniel that depends… would I be getting advice from bear traffic control?

    daniel,
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    @nicklockwood @RobW 😂🤣

    hessi,

    @daniel Spent a couple hours in the Lufthansa Flight school on an Airbus simulator, flying multiple trips between EDMO and EDDM. Even going for a Bagdad Corkscrew approach multiple times.

    So yeah, count me in.

    daniel,
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    @hessi fair!

    h_r_w_go,

    @daniel Does it have to be in one piece? Survivors required?

    Sabata11792,
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    I feel like I spent my entire life training for this moment. We're still dying though.

    7331,

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  • daniel,
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    @7331 totally

    bluGill,
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    @daniel if you are lucky there is an autoland button.

    If this is a real situation the import part is get the headset on, find the push to talk button and call help. Radio frequencies change all the time, so this needs to be done fast enough that someone is sill in radio range. Once you make contact, they will inform ground control and then the best controller will be assigned to assist you, and they do have emergency teach the new guy to fly and land instructions. This will greatly increase your odds. It is still a long shot, but it gives you a chance.

    Of course if in this situations the plane belongs to the insurance company: success is graded by percent survivors.

    neo,

    @daniel Based on my sim experience, getting the right heading for the runway and not overshooting seems to be quite hard when flying completely manual (although you get a feeling for it after a while), but with autopilot it should be totally doable- as long as somebody tells you the right buttons to press and nothing weird happens. xD

    Perhaps it's even easier in something like an A320, which is sooooo stable compared to smaller airplanes that are blewn all over the place. ;D

    toni,
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    @daniel Deciding between option 1 and 2 wasn’t easy… I think I have enough (software) simulator experience to find the necessary knobs alone, but I’d be happy to take advice from ATC. The scenario makes a big difference too. Are we close to the programmed destination airport? Do we have a lot of fuel? What’s the weather like?

    If the radio were fried, I‘d try anyway, rather than die panicking, and estimate an 80% survival chance in calm weather. 😅

    odo,

    @daniel Es gab dazu (Quelle: TikTok) wohl schon mehrfach Umfragen und cis Männer glauben überproportional oft, dass sie das könnten.
    Habe auf die Schnelle die hier gefunden: https://viewfromthewing.com/one-third-of-people-think-they-could-land-a-plane-if-their-pilots-became-incapacitated/

    daniel,
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    @odo deswegen frag ich :D~

    gameplayer,

    @daniel "Everybody, hold on!!!"

    daniel,
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    @gameplayer can’t be worse than Ryanair can it?

    gameplayer,

    @daniel

    Me when driving with meow meow

    daniel,
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    @gameplayer meow meow 😍

    uliwitness,
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    @daniel I’ve actually flown a Cessna in the air once, but landing … probably not.

    sam,

    @daniel I kinda fancy my chances, and could certainly keep my head, but also, realistically, I’ve no clue and would probably kill us all. So voted no!

    MagicLike,
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    @daniel I think I would be confident enough to try - I am literally addicted to plane videos and definetly want to fly in one of those full moving sims once...
    I think I know a bit how how planes and their cockpits work - and yeah the radio would probably be the best tool I had on hand.
    Idk if you know, but there is a Tom Scott video where he tries to solve this exact scenario - landing a plane because both pilots are out of order.

    daniel,
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    @MagicLike ooh gotta check that out

    MagicLike,
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    @daniel
    Tom Scott: I'm not a pilot. Can I land a 737? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbTDzPUDxqY

    Mentour Pilot: Challenge Accepted! Can Tom Scott Land a B737 By Himself?! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaOvtL6qYpc

    daniel,
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    @MagicLike this is SO DAMN entertaining! THanks for sharing

    MagicLike,
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    @daniel np :blobhappy:

    MagicLike,
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    @daniel and no, I am not so crazy saying I would be able to fly this thing by hand, but an ILS app should be doable...

    daniel,
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    @MagicLike that’s what I figure too

    catraxx,

    @daniel I said no, but i am actually not sure. If i had help and somebody just explained to me what buttons to push, then maybe. I mean i generally understand how planes move. If it is an easy airfield with no sidewinds or anything. There are a lot of factors.

    below,
    @below@mastodon.social avatar

    @daniel I am bold. I have sim experience, and I know that cargo pilots land their planes on full auto all the time. It’s bumpy, that’s why you don’t do it with PAX.

    seth73,

    @daniel well, i have experience landing an f16 on a carrier, in a sim, on a c64, >30 years ago... so, probably not. But i sure would try my best 😃

    ainmosni,
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    @daniel Depends on what your definition of "land" is.

    ainmosni,
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    @daniel I mean, I'm pretty sure I can land almost any vehicle.

    Now it being in one piece and everybody surviving... that's a whole different story.

    daniel,
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    @ainmosni let’s say the craft ends up on the runway with only minor damage and no one dies

    ainmosni,
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    @daniel In this case, "idklol"

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