notjustbikes,
@notjustbikes@notjustbikes.com avatar

This is a nice touch on the Taipei Airport Metro. Wireless charging!

thibaultmol,
@thibaultmol@en.osm.town avatar

@notjustbikes
...... I'm confused by where exactly you need to put your phone on these.

Unless they are the new qi wireless 2 standard which I highly doubt, there should be indications where the actual charging coils are

notjustbikes,
@notjustbikes@notjustbikes.com avatar

@thibaultmol I believe that's what the "circle" of dots is around the words "Charging Area", because that's where it charged my phone.

cody,

@notjustbikes I mean I guess it's better than having USB-A sockets like they do in Spain... Like no thank you, I'd rather not plug my phone into an insecure USB port...
I insist the better option is to just give you a 240V socket, but this is def better than USB

notjustbikes,
@notjustbikes@notjustbikes.com avatar

@cody those USB-A sockets charge so slowly anyway. It's annoying that so many trains and buses are being built with these USB ports while the world is moving to USB-PD over USB-C.

As for security issues, that's why I used to travel with a charge-only cable (with no data lines at all). They also sell USB condoms, but I have no idea if that's technically possible with USB-PD.

implicitdeny,
@implicitdeny@todon.nl avatar

@notjustbikes @cody probably not, as PD relies on establishing a negociation of max power rating supported by both end, so the data channel is mandatory. Preventing this negociation from happening will probably default to low power charging

notjustbikes,
@notjustbikes@notjustbikes.com avatar

@implicitdeny That is what I suspect, too.

But you might be able to build some kind of USB-PD relay that would allow PD negotiations but no other data transfer, though I suspect it would be expensive.

krt3k,

@notjustbikes @implicitdeny There are "USB-PD breakout boards" that allow you to just get a requested voltage and amperage out of a USB-PD power supply and those aren't too expensive iirc, so combining that with another negotiator shouldn't be too expensive

notjustbikes,
@notjustbikes@notjustbikes.com avatar

@krt3k yeah, I know they exist. I own lots of them! 😁

But the trickier part is re-negotiating USB-PD to the phone. This isn't rocket science, and just would require a microcontroller and another USB-PD chip, but the cost would add up for a low volume commercial product.

czhang03,
@czhang03@mathstodon.xyz avatar

@cody
@notjustbikes

Unfortunately wireless charging is still terribly inefficient, and overheats like crazy. IMO it should probably only be used in an emergency.
https://www.ifixit.com/News/94409/wireless-charging-trading-efficiency-for-convenience

notjustbikes,
@notjustbikes@notjustbikes.com avatar

@czhang03 @cody yes, I know. And it's even worse if you leave the case on.

It will still charge faster than USB-A 5V @ 2A (or less!) that is typical on transit.

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