krzyzanowskim,
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there is a guy, who says that Swift on Windows is more complete than Swift on Linux. let that sink in 🤔

helge,
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@krzyzanowskim Did he mention why he thinks that?

krzyzanowskim,
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helge,
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@krzyzanowskim That is nice, do you also want to tell us the reasons? 🙃

krzyzanowskim,
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@helge me? no

helge,
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@krzyzanowskim Im sincerely confused. You tell us that @compnerd claims that Swift on Windows is further than on Linux, but you won’t give any kind of backup on your claim on that? Why? 🤔

krzyzanowskim,
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@helge these are not my claims. but the story is that windows swift is in feature parity with latest apple swift, while linux is always behind

helge,
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@krzyzanowskim Yes but where did he say this?

JetForMe,
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@helge @krzyzanowskim Yeah I’d like to know why @compnerd says this too.

compnerd,

@JetForMe @helge @krzyzanowskim

It’s a subjective observation. swift-inspect is an example - available on Windows but not Linux, the installer story being better for windows, the packaging on windows having redistributables for the runtimes, etc. The behavioral similarities between Windows and macOS also contribute to that feeling - if there’s a size increase impacting one the other is likely also impacted. That is not to say that there are not areas where Linux may be a bit ahead.

finestructure,
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@compnerd Are the installation instructions on swift.org up to date? Specifically, is the VS installation still required? I thought I saw it mentioned somewhere it might not be.

https://swift.org/install/windows/

compnerd,

@finestructure Yes, the VS installation is still required. That is what provides the headers for ucrt/vcruntime. VS then doubles up as a means for installing the Windows SDK which is available standalone. The toolchain distribution includes everything else (compilers, linkers, debuggers, IDE tools, etc).

finestructure,
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@compnerd That’s great to know, thanks for the additional details!

finestructure,
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@compnerd So this worked really well in getting me started and now I’ve of course run head first into the wall that is swift-nio on Windows 😅

You don’t happen to have your fork available somewhere so I could give it a try?

NeoNacho,

@krzyzanowskim is that good

krzyzanowskim,
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that guy is @compnerd who single-handedly brings Swift to Windows

krzyzanowskim,
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the year of Linux on desktop cannot come soon enough

dimsumthinking,
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@krzyzanowskim it’s next year for sure. (It’s always next year)

pixelscience,
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@krzyzanowskim yes and @compnerd also single-handedly brought Swift to PlayStation.

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