bynkii,
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20 years ago, sure. Nowadays? Oh god fuck no, you’ll spend all day every day dealing with attacks and security issues.

People who don’t know better will be in a world of pain they cannot imagine and anyone who does know better and still subscribes to this technolibertarian bullshit deserves all the pain they get.

Unless you absolutely have to, (and if you even ask if you need to, the answer is, again, FUCK NO), do. not. run. your. own. email. server.

JFC.
https://io.mwl.io/@mwl/112479237758624176

majors,

@bynkii Interesting choice to be all aggressive and gatekeepery rather than acknowledge that people can make their own choices about these things and give them the tools and knowledge to understand and mitigate the risks if they choose to self-host

bynkii,
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@majors can I apply that to your field? So someone reads a book and hey, they’re completely able to fully understand the risks and details of kernel programming right?

Fuck no, and no one with a clue would run an OS kernel built by someone whose entire experience is “I read a book. Once.”

If someone wants to learn about email, how it works and why, that is absolutely good. I encourage that.

bynkii,
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@majors But as someone with 30+ years in the field, there is a WORLD of difference between me running an email server and someone who read a book. There’s things they won’t know that will cause them days and weeks of problems, and potentially many other people problems.

The internet isn’t just one thing, it’s all kind of connected.

But sure, saying “this shit ain’t simple, it’s unending work” is being gatekeepy.

Feel free to spout that nonsense elsewhere.

mwl,
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@bynkii been running mine since 1997. It's very doable.

bynkii,
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@mwl from a purely technical point? Sure. I ran multiples for decades. The technical side is absolutely never the problem. It’s that email is the number one security attack vector, and so unless you are very experienced and understand certain things very well, you’re going to get pooched. Quickly.

I can teach a small child how to set up an email server. Which will be owned by various groups in an hour if you don’t do the constant work to stop them.

mwl,
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@bynkii I spend less than an hour a month on mail maintenance, if that. Lock it down at setup and get on with your life. :flan_shrug:

But you do you.

bynkii,
@bynkii@mastodon.social avatar

@mwl dude, you have been doing this for like 30 years. You cannot, can. not. expect someone with no experience to follow a fucking howto and have the same experience.

But I forgot I was talking to a Linux admin who can’t comprehend that everyone isn’t just like him. So I am going to do me and yeet you out of my world.

Life is too short to deal with people actively avoiding empathy of any kind.

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