doubletwist,

Can we start the 1st on Sunday though so every month has a Friday the 13th?

Colonel_Panic_,

This is the real discussion piece. We either always have Friday the 13th or we never do again.

I’m with you for always Friday the 13th.

Plus, never having one again just feels wrong.

LockheedTheDragon, (edited )

I do not want my birthday to fall on the same day of the week each year!

NewAgeOldPerson,

Seems like a high price to pay just to test who cares enough.

ben_dover,

i’m intrigued, but leap days would fuck it up though

dingus,

Also imagine your birthday always being on a Monday…

Typhoonigator,

This meme already ignores the fact that it’s only produced a calendar of 364 days.

Most proposed versions I’ve seen of this calendar have New Year’s Day as a standalone holiday, so the leap day presumably tacks on to that every 4 years?

Lifter,

Leap years aren’t every four years though, just FYI.

ben_dover,

true I’ve heard about that, sure why not

NeatNit, (edited )

Currently, everyone in the world agrees about the days of the week (correct me if I’m wrong). If it’s Monday in France it’s Monday in Finland, besides a few hours due to timezones. But if a particular society adopts this system you describe, or any system under which every year starts on a particular day of the week and is solar aligned, that necessitates having an incomplete week and losing that sync with the entire rest of the world.

A possible solution is to only use leap weeks. So every year has 364 days, but every 6 years or so (spare me the exact calculation) you track on a leap week to realign with the solar cycle. This is similar to the leap month in the Hebrew calendar - months follow the moon so a leap month is the smallest unit possible to tweak the length of a year.

Tnaeriv, (edited )

You’re wrong. For example: some of the country of Kiribati (UTC +14) will never be in the same day of the week as Hawaii (UTC -10).

NeatNit,

Right, I forgot about that edge case… But at least they agree about a particular date’s day of the week, don’t they? And they’re consistently one day off. This proposed system would be inconsistently off, sometimes in sync and sometimes 3 days off.

mnemonicmonkeys,

This reminds me of a fantasy series I like, where the world still has 365 day, but every month is 30 days long, and the remaining 5 days are separate holidays for the solstices, equinoxes, and new years.

Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

BakerBagel,

Don’t decimalize time, instead dozenalize our numbers! Twelve is such a better building block than ten. Pretty much all math becomes way easier using dozenal numbers instead of decimal ones.

OozingPositron,
@OozingPositron@feddit.cl avatar

With base 12 you can actually get a result for 1/3

mnemonicmonkeys,

But not for 1/5

kaityy,

Big Decimal has brainwashed the population into thinking that 5 is a good number instead of the terrible prime number that it is. It should be clumped in with 7 and 11 as Bad Numbers when you’re dealing with anything except for 10s.

Moobythegoldensock,

Yes, but having 2, 3, 4, 6 as factors is way better than having only 2 and 5. We’d be giving up one factor to add three.

Sconrad122,

Oh god, converting imperial kHz to metric kHz sounds awful

mnemonicmonkeys,

Mwahahaha!

ChairmanMeow,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

The 24h cycle with subdivisions in 60 is easy for dividing them up though. 60 divides by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30.

HubertManne,
HubertManne avatar

I like this better because if you have to do one holiday outside of the calendar then why not 5 and the equinoxes and solsctices divide it up perfectly. Then everything else is nice and even. I assume weeks were six days long as that is how I always thought of it. 5 six day weeks.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Apparently in the series it’s 6 5-day weeks. They also didn’t have names for the days

zalgotext,

Also, when are we going to do 10hrs/day, 100 min/hr and 100s/min?

This is how you collectively give the entire scientific community a simultaneous aneurysm. The amount of work needed to convert measurements based on our current seconds/minutes/hours to your “metric” seconds/minutes/hours would be astronomical.

Also, pretty much everyone already agrees on the current system of time, so why change it? It would just create another metric/imperial or F/C divide and cause conversion mistakes.

Gondolaaaa,

It would add another level to time conversion between timezones

SapphironZA,

I think we are due another Y2K legacy system replacement global project.

davitz,
uis,

Metric time is TAI

01011,

Can we do something about October being the 10th month of the year. It’s stupid and annoying.

meliante,

And September (sept=seven), November (nov=nine) and December (dec=ten)…

blindsight,

You can thank Julius Augustus for that. He wanted the best months named after himself. Egomaniac.

s_s,

Start the year on March 1st like it used to be?

meliaesc,

Blame the Caesars, Julius for July and Augustus for August.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Tbf, the calendar before them was even worse

roscoe, (edited )

That’s a common misconception. For the Romans, the year used to start with March and only have ten months. January and February weren’t even named, it was just the time between harvest and the new year. Several calendar changes followed over the centuries. Adding two months (January and February). Moving the new year to January, which made September-December no longer 7-10. Adding random one-off months to realign with the seasons. And a couple different tries at leap days, among other things.

This gives a quick overview.

Edit 2: To clarify, the above changes were all made by the Romans, they only started with a ten month calendar.

Edit: The fifth and sixth months were originally named Quintilis and Sextilis before they were changed to July and August.

zaphod,

The Romans had twelve months and they even named January and February, it’s usually attributed to Numa Pompilius, second king of Rome sometime during his reign (715–672 BC) of the Roman Kingdom.

roscoe, (edited )

All covered in the link. The addition of January and February and later moving the new year from March to January is the reason Sept-Dec are no longer the seventh-tenth months. Not July and August, which were renamings, not additions.

Edit: I suppose my first comment should have specified early Romans. The way I wrote it could be read as all those changes happening after the Romans.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose we could fix it by moving the start of the year to March 1st. Start of spring makes more sense for the new year anyway.

Etterra,

I’ve actual been saying this for years for this exact reason. God forbid we not be able to divide a year into clean quarters.

BigBenis,

Three months and one week still seems like a clean quarter to me.

Alternatively, if we really want to stick to the three-month quarter then we could call the extra week of each quarter an off-week or save it all for the 13th month of the year since nothing really gets done during that time anyway.

bluewing,

Ah yes, decimalized time. An idea so bad even the French said no, just no after trying it.

xkforce,

People being afraid of the number 13 doesnt make it a bad idea.

Typhoonigator,

I believe they’re referring to the metric time comment, not the calendar change idea.

realitista,

28*13=364

cori,

New years day is always a holiday that doesn’t fall on any other day of the calendar. It’s just kind of its own thing. No idea how that would actually work irl but that is usually how this proposal is explained.

watersnipje,

As a software engineer, I beg of you

maynarkh,

We just shut down the servers for one day a year and reboot all of them. How hard can it be?

watersnipje,

Ok, and we just don’t process any of the data from that day, ever?

maynarkh,

Let’s be honest, we all could do with a bit less data processing.

Swedneck,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

what happens on new years stays in new years

golli,

So we basically make the Purge a reality?

arken,

I like this idea more and more. All computers off, noone is allowed to work, just a big new years party for everyone.

GBU_28,

EVER

KamikazeRusher,

Network switches with over 10 years of uptime chuckle nervously

mexicancartel,

Just invent 0. Array starts from 0 so can new year

watersnipje,

Zero Nonuary.

GBU_28,

You’ve been given the zeroth place

Kage520,

And leap year?

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

New year’s 2: Electric Boogaloo

BlackRoseAmongThorns,

Kinda sounds easier to implement tbh, like, right now leap days are in a specific month, but wouldn’t it (in addition to a hypothetical new years day) be easier to handle and remember if they are a very explicit part of the calendar system?

watersnipje,

On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, now there is a day that is not part of a week, or a month. And we have a month and a week that don’t immediately follow after the previous one.

BlackRoseAmongThorns,

Very reasonable

Denalduh,

You’ll also need plan for timezones as well.

Flax_vert,

Wouldn’t it make sense to have the 1st be a Sunday and 28th be a Saturday?

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Iirc most countries consider Monday the beginning of the week and Sunday the end of the week, hence the term “weekend”

Flax_vert,

TIL, in the UK we seem to see Sunday as the first day of the week, but under ISO it’s monday. Interesting.

JusticeForPorygon, (edited )
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like the answer has to do with the predominant religion in the area (if any)

Most of Europe and China consider Monday the first day of the (work) week, while North America, Israel, South Asia, and many Catholic and Protestant countries, consider Sunday the first day of the week, while Saturday is judged as the first day of the week in much of the Middle East (Israel excepted) and North Africa due to the Islamic influence.

Flax_vert,

Monday is the first day of the work week. Seems to be on whether or not you centre your life around work or God 🤣

JusticeForPorygon,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

Duality of man

watersnipje,

If Sunday is the first day of the week, then which days do you call weekend?

Flax_vert,

Saturday and su-… Okay you win 🤣

heleos,

I used to think the same, even made fun of friends and family for setting calendars to start on Monday, but then I tried it and found the light

Flax_vert,

What’s so important about a visual change 🤣

heleos,

I like having the weekend lumped together, it’s called a weekend for a reason!

MalReynolds,
@MalReynolds@slrpnk.net avatar

Just make inconvenient days holidays, few will complain.

ThePyroPython,

But how would the corporate world divide the 13 month year into quarters? Don’t you know what that’ll do to the bottom line?! Think of the poor shareholders! /s

Flax_vert,

3 months and one week. Simples!

NegativeInf,

We dine on the rich during month 13.

TheGrandNagus,

Split it to 3 months as is now, then the remainder is 28 days. 28 is divisible by 4 to leave 7.

Q1 ends 1 week into April, Q2 ends 2 weeks into June, etc.

Philippe23,

Kodak used this calendar for 60 years. The company’s decline started within a decade of abandoning the calendar.

en.wikipedia.org/…/International_Fixed_Calendar

kameecoding,

3 months 1 week?

SlopppyEngineer, (edited )

The solution to that is having 12 months of 4 weeks each, and one week of solstice every 3 months. One quarter then is 13 weeks in total. That makes it so each quarter perfectly matches a season and keeps it all in sync with solar time. In the ideal case you also match the school holidays to the solstice, and the winter solstice includes new year’s day and leap day, making it just a bit longer for Christmas holidays.

Yes, I’ve given this a bit too much thought.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I’d put leap day with the Summer Solstice, split up the extra days.

MeDuViNoX,
Adalast,

I have genuinely had exactly this conversation with only the names changed. Multiple times.

zaphod, (edited )

You really think the world could come to an agreement on which day the week should start? Would be really awkward if a month starts with the second or third day of the week.

HonoraryMancunian,

Imagine if your birthday was always on Monday

Hule,

Strong counterargument there!

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