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Thank you for your company, all!!

Have a great fortnight (or so).

Will catch up later :)

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Thanks, everyone for your participation today! @genchat

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Next time (June 15), we have a special guest expert -
@cyndislist , talking about Institutes! @genchat

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One detangling strategy I've been using the past few years is: when I come across an issue on my tree, I add it to my "To Do" list in my program (I use Legacy Family Tree). That way I can research it properly & won't forget about it. @genchat

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Some of you might remember that I had attended a gen soc meeting a couple weeks ago about untangling from a genealogy mess.

Overall, not too helpful, but one thing I gleaned: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Cite those sources, for one! @genchat

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Some helpful detangling tools from last night:

  • timelines
  • spreadsheets
  • draft trees for unverified family members/FANs

@genchat

genchat,
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Oh, and using Tags! @genchat

RobertJackson58585858,
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Draft trees = floating trees on Ancestry ... very useful indeed.

Sometimes I'm in two minds whether the exploratory nature means I should anonymise by eg leaving off dates of death in my public tree.

Alternatively there are always valid records attached so in that sense they are true trees but not necessarily ever going to be attached properly to mine.

genchat,
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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat Do you have these draft trees public or private?

RobertJackson58585858,
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The least productive have been separate private trees.

The most productive are floating (with"Floating" in the suffix field of the name) so are essentially public ... but if I omit the date of death/make "living" it makes them invisible.

The latter quite often eventually flash up a hint as to a parent who is in my tree from earlier working "downhill"

Basically it's what thrulines does!

genchat,
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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat I've always wondered why someone might mark a dead person as private. Now I know!

RobertJackson58585858,
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Yeeees ... especially the living ones well into their 120s.

RobertJackson58585858, to random
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Best tool in my box for sorting out messes I've mentioned before:

The UK GRO website for post 1837 UK births that morphs into FreeBMD around 1911 for confirming mothers' maiden names. It can be tedious but helps disambiguation.

I've only been using it about 12 months so a slow process to verify the wilder branches.

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@genealogy Ah surely you jest? Messes? We are talking people & families, right? All a mess, always a mess. Just get one sorted and something else pops up. I say "Embrace the Mess" and do what speaks to you now. Currently working on a 4000 year old conundrum. It's funny too that people forget how messy humans are. We have a multiplicity of motivations. We move. We come back home. My great joy this week. A new YDNA match that appears to have moved less than 30 miles in 4000 years. https://wheatonwood.com/2024/05/22/the-journey-of-one-4000-year-old-celtic-y-snp-rfgc22501-ten-years-of-discovery/

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@kwheaton @genealogy "Embrace the Mess"...I love that!

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Has anyone done a Do-Over or a Go-Over?

I have to admit, I don't think I'd ever do a do-over. @genchat

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I was looking at some of the after-chat over on Twitter this morning & one person suggested looking at the "why" behind the mess.

Of course sometimes we know the why - copying an online tree as a newbie, forgetting/neglecting a source citation, etc. @genchat

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Regarding photos, last night Jan recommended a book & following the guy who wrote this: https://thedambook.com/ @genchat

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Some of the messes from last night were: why is this person in my tree? Sorting out DNA matches; determining FANs and more @genchat

RobertJackson58585858, to random
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Good afternoon all!
I hope all have had a productive fortnight :)

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Good morning/evening/afternoon, ! Today our Open Mic theme is Untangling from a Mess! What kinds of messes do you have? Big/small? Physical/electronic? How do you untangle them? Let's chat! @genchat

RobertJackson58585858,
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Typically:

Common names (both common common and locally common).

Record gaps UK from around 1800 to 1837 start of registration and 1841 census.

Headwinds of copied trees.

Ancestry thrulines throwing a wobbly.

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A5 @genchat A few examples from last night:
Jan - Quotas! See the Immigration Act of 1924. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/immigration-act#:~:text=The%20Immigration%20Act%20of%201924%20limited%20the%20number%20of%20immigrants,of%20the%201890%20national%20census

Chris - There was a quota put in place in the late 1920s by the US government that really hampered chain migration. Didn't stop some people...

Me - I was also reading about the Chinese exclusion act & how they had to try to work around it. Probably should have saved the link

BRMiller,
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The 'Pieces of History" blog at the US National Archives has several posts on the history of "control" of Chinese Immigration. Use "Chinese" in the search box.

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/

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RobertJackson58585858,
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Yes ... I now recall ... The other ship was the Birman.

Unfortunately on a later voyage the Martha Ridgeway sank :((

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