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goulet, 15 hours ago to webdev

Should I use ::after pseudo-element to add a sort order indicator?

It feels like it's not very accessible because the semantic HTML content doesn't actual contain the sort indicator... but the way I'm conditionally adding it is by reading the aria-sort attribute so maybe that's the accessible part of things and the ::after content doesn't need to be SR-friendly 🤷

<th aria-sort="ascending">  
 <button>Name</button>  
</th>

<style>  
 th[aria-sort="ascending"] > button::after {  
 content: '▼';  
 }  
</style>  

#webdev #a11y

aardrian, 15 hours ago

@goulet Do you know that character announces?

I have suggestions:
https://adrianroselli.com/2021/04/sortable-table-columns.html

aardrian, 15 hours ago

@goulet Also, my question was not meant to be a trick question. If you don’t know, NVDA / Firefox announces it as “filled down pointing triangle”, which is really verbose.

aardrian, 14 hours ago

@Lukew
Still nope:
https://adrianroselli.com/2020/10/alternative-text-for-css-generated-content.html#Takeaway-3 (anchor link)

@goulet

aardrian, 14 hours ago

@Lukew
No, you don’t want it announced.

But adding that hides the entire glyph in some cases.

And the glyph is too verbose to use as-is.

So the aria-sort is for SR users, but the glyph makes a worse experience for them on top of that.

I have a pattern here: https://adrianroselli.com/2021/04/sortable-table-columns.html

@goulet

aardrian, 14 hours ago

@Lukew
Did you read my post?

My short answer is probably not, no.

@goulet

aardrian, 19 hours ago to accessibility

Chrome / TalkBack bug I first reported in 2020, and which was fixed for a time (?) appears to be back. Looking for confirmation before I file yet another one.

A named region with a tabindex does not expose its contents. Chrome / TalkBack only announces its accName and role.

I think I have an ugly workaround (“Shawarma” heading).

Test case:
https://codepen.io/aardrian/pen/ExzyadL

Similar to issue I filed earlier this month, which I limited to APG tab panels.

#accessibility #a11y

aardrian, 19 hours ago

@mayank Thanks. Does the “Shawarma” example work well enough?

aardrian, 19 hours ago

@mayank Agreed. Not at all ideal.

Thanks!

aardrian, 19 hours ago

@pkra Yeah, also not a daily SR user. But the confirmation helps. Thanks!

aardrian, 17 hours ago

Got enough confirmation. Filed a Chromium bug:

Named regions with tabindex hide content from TalkBack
https://issues.chromium.org/issues/342172183

Thanks all!

#a11y #accessibility

sbourne, 23 hours ago to random

I hope you all appreciate how much restraint I have shown in sharing pictures from our Scotland-London-Norfolk trip. I've taken over 2000…so far… 😬

aardrian, 22 hours ago

@sbourne I sensed it.

aardrian, 8 days ago (edited 4 days ago) to accessibility

I got name-checked in Jessica Weber’s 2024 #AccessU2024 Legal Update! It was for #AudioEye’s SLAPP #overlay suit.

Got to lunch very late because people wanted to ask me questions, but not in front of the AudioEye executive who was in the room.

https://knowbility.org/programs/accessu-2024/the-2024-accessu-legal-update

#accessibility #a11y

aardrian, 1 day ago

@jyarbrough The AudioEye executive? As far as I understand, he did not attend Thursday. So perhaps some other fake-AI shill.

aardrian, 1 day ago to OpenAI

So an #OpenAI founder leaves:
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/14/openai-co-founder-ilya-sutskever-says-he-will-leave-the-startup.html

Its risk team was disbanded:
https://www.wired.com/story/openai-superalignment-team-disbanded/

After team leaders left due to safety concerns:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/openai-dissolves-team-focused-long-term-ai-risks-less-one-year-announc-rcna152824

While OpenAI was potentially cloning a voice sans permission:
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/20/1252495087/openai-pulls-ai-voice-that-was-compared-to-scarlett-johansson-in-the-movie-her

And we’re supposed to believe a safety pledge?
https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/05/big-ai-companies-sign-safety-pledge/

Not liking this track record. #AI

aardrian, 1 day ago

@starbreaker That and different last names. So yeah.

aardrian, 1 day ago

That was just in the last week.

Related:

• “AI isn’t useless. But is it worth it?”
https://www.citationneeded.news/ai-isnt-useless/

• “MDN’s AI Help and lucid lies”
https://seirdy.one/posts/2024/04/04/mdn-ai-help-and-lucid-lies/

Only because I have had those tabs open a month and keep going back to them.

#AI

aardrian, 1 day ago

@starbreaker If they had the same last name (and different first names) then one could have paid for the other to essentially not do time.

But now I am just being cynical.

aardrian, 1 day ago

@patrick_h_lauke
This is how rumors start, Pat.

@starbreaker