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franklin

@franklin@lemmy.world

I’m just a man with a guillotine

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franklin,
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I think they know this, it’s why they’ve been releasing everything on of PC. It’s just a win win for them they can have their timed exclusives and get access to another market of players.

Please Sony, give us Bloodborne

franklin,
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Fair, PS4 emulation is going to take a couple years though at least for bloodborne level optimizations

franklin, (edited )
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It’s honestly one of my favorite distros and has a lot of unique awesome features and guides for beginners.

Discord has some rough edges if you use it regularly but it definitely still works.

franklin, (edited )
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Biden should be acting on the genocide but he isn’t and neither will Trump. The only two people capable of being in office in the next 4 years.

So pressure Congress, protest and do everything you can but in the meantime those two are nothing alike on most other issues and being a single issue voter has never made the system better.

franklin,
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Unfortunately, if you view a vote as being complicit you’re complicit no matter what.

Because with the two party bias there are only two people capable of being in that office and not voting for either of them is still a vote in and of itself.

To be clear I don’t care who you vote for but you need to accept the reality that you are choosing one of the two whether you mean to or not.

That’s why Congress is the only realistic way we can pressure our political system to stop what’s currently going on. The government doesn’t stop at the president and plenty of our Congress supports it too which is what allows it to be the way it is.

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Then you’ve failed to grasp the implicit bias that is baked into our political system.

I’m not saying it’s right we should absolutely be trying to change that. However it’s the truth.

Until we get something like ranked choice voting we are stuck voting for the best of two or giving power to the worse.

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Yeah you absolutely can but that will whether you intend to or not give power to the other party. Which if your goal is to assuage your moral complicitency then I think you need to rethink your end result.

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No I am very affected by it, please do not assume. I have never chastised you. Every single time I have talked kindly and merely pointed out some moral fallacies in your argument.

Unfortunately not voting for them doesn’t teach them anything we learned that in 2016, the DNC still holds most of the same positions, abstaining just does not work with the current voting structure.

The only thing we got in return was 4 years of environmental deregulation, deregulation of employment protections, deregulation of election protections and so much more.

We are at a pivotal point in our planet’s history where if we don’t stop the excess carbon being put in the atmosphere there won’t be anyone left to save. I know Biden hasn’t taken as much action on this as everyone would like but he’s taking a heck of a lot more than Trump ever will.

So even if your long-term goal was achieved by putting pressure here and not voting which I’m can assure you given past circumstance it won’t, the irreparable damage to the planet and our country can’t simply be undone if your goal is achieved.

However Congress is not in such a lofty position and much easier to pressure so I urge you to pressure them instead. As they have the means to make an actual difference.

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Yes if a republican didn’t vote it would be support for Biden, that is essentially how it boils down

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To be honest due to the many holes in their position I am almost assured that is their intent.

franklin,
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Just trying to avoid 2016 pt. 2

You can always vote however you want I’m not trying to change that I’m just trying to get you to understand that your actions may not have your desired end result and why.

We agree on what needs to happen just not the methods.

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Voting is not a stamp of approval I’ve established that pretty strongly with evidence and theory. It can never be a stamp approval as long as the current system for voting is in place.

You do have a moral fallacy you say that you’re complicit if you vote for someone who is immoral. To extend this logic you’re also complicit in every other evil that could have been prevented. I don’t think we need a replay of 2016 to establish that a republican victory will do more harm both short and long-term.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t pressure him I’m saying you can’t. Your methods will not work, never will. Because the voting system we have in place does not allow lack of votes to pressure, only votes pressure. It’s why millennials get so little of what they want because they don’t vote like older generations do.

So why is pressuring Congress the one piece of action you actually have left so out of the question?

franklin,
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I wish you all the luck in the world but I can tell you now that it is not me acknowledging the fact that our system has an inherent two party bias that assured the last 50 years of one of the two parties.

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Do you sincerely not see a difference in the last 4 years as opposed to the four prior? We’ve had an increase action on health Care, student debt, decriminalization of marijuana, environmental action and a whole lot more.

I’m not saying it’s perfect I’m just saying he’s the best option we’ve got and if you want to sway him more in the direction you want then in the meantime pressuring Congress will allow you to do that.

Lack of votes don’t pressure anyone only votes do.

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Could you please be a little more polite I’m still a human being. I understand it’s an emotional topic but I’ve remained cordial.

I think my prior responses outline pretty thoroughly why I think it will achieve a worse end result. I also understand that it may not be their intent however I don’t think that really matters.

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You’ve misinterpreted this quote. This is about violent protest and Democrats unwillingness to engage or support them during trying to forcefully take back the rights.

However that’s decidedly not the solution you have proposed. You’ve proposed inaction.

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I’m sorry but evidence does not support your claims, there are plenty of white papers to support the theory that votes and indeed the demographics that vote the most have the most sway in political policy especially in the US.

I’m saying you have a choice to make between two candidates, it shouldn’t be that narrow and we should try to change that but for now under the system we’ve been given that is our options barring violent protest.

Or you can choose to act upon any other apparatus of the political system such as Congress or municipal government. Not voting is an ineffective means of asserting your political intent.

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It really bothers me how they’re so willing to lay every Injustice at one side without considering the other or the other areas of the political apparatus they can effect.

But I guess I shouldn’t be so surprised that’s business as usual

franklin,
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You’re right upon submitting it to scrutiny of the source that had originally broke down that quote I believe I was incorrect about the part of the violent protests.

I’m very aware that it was about the Democrats lack of support for his movement and their inaction during that time. The failures of the democratic party are very clear.

I’ve never taken issue with what you’re saying. You can repeat it as much as you want, not even telling you to delay action I wish you would take action right now. What you are encouraging though is absolutely inaction in every sense of the word.

To put your logic to the test please explain to me how the 20-year low of voter turnout for the Democrats in 2016 was able to meaningfully affect policy.

franklin,
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If you don’t make a choice one is made for you, even if the choice is a flawed one.

franklin, (edited )
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None of that addresses my critism of your point of view.

This is literally advocating for inaction. Not even local participation or groups they can support in the meantime to achieve your goals.

Well I think I’ve got as much out of this as I possibly can. At this junction I will agree to disagree.

franklin,
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I sure hope that dude is a troll or a bot I really try to give most people benefit of the doubt but those might take the cake was the most insane takes I’ve ever heard.

franklin, (edited )
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I mean there’s enough documented evidence of them denying and discrediting evidence. What’s one more piece of documented evidence. If we don’t ever penalize them all it does is reinforce the idea that it works, encouraging others to do the same.

franklin, (edited )
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I didn’t say any of that, I sincerely don’t care who you vote for or if you even vote.

All I’m saying is in the system as currently implemented, choosing not to vote or to ignore the two party bias is still a vote for one of the two.

Please do not put words in my mouth.

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