glitzersachen

@glitzersachen@hachyderm.io

#SoftwareEngineer, privately interested in #commonlisp currently, also #python and #emacs.

Views presented here are my own and not of my employer.

I have a degree in physics, too (and not the new fangled bachelor shit ;-), BTW).

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knittingknots2, to random
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Secret Service notified as Trump aide brags about 'causing innocent people to be arrested' - Raw Story

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcentee-secret-service/

glitzersachen,

@knittingknots2
So he admits distributing fake money (bringing it into circulation). Isn't that a felony in itself, even in the US? Probably in any country that prints its own money.

Emmacox, to random
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You just know the people who believe in the current crop of conspiracy theories are the descendants of those people who labelled a woman as a witch and blamed her for cursing their crop/livestock/causing bad weather etc.

glitzersachen,

@Emmacox

The thing that saddens me, is that this is not an evolutionary disadvantage to be this far divorced from reality.

(My big hope is they all drink bleach some time sufficient quantity because , say, "the government doesn't want you to". So far I have been disappointed.)

@simon_brooke

futurebird, to random
@futurebird@sauropods.win avatar

Someone said it's important say this publicly in the US: so I will. (And I think each of us should, online and to friends)

This November I will vote for Biden.

I would regard not voting for Biden, particularly in: PA, OH, MI, WI, IN, IL,VA, GA, FL, AZ, ME, NC, NH, etc. as a huge error. I'd be disappointed to find out anyone I knew didn't vote. It's one of a long list of things we need to do. We can't skip it.

And still? We deserve better choices, and in the future we shall have them.

glitzersachen,

@futurebird @incoherentmumblings @tob

+1 for somebody mentioning that the US has not totally been the land where milk and honey flows.

Let me add to that, that no other "developed" country has such a hardly existent health care system.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

Friend, there were no push-backs in Germany....
And as far as Louis XIV goes, you might have heard about the restoration. Or you might be the one who considers the revolution the low point ...

"Now it's the US's term to get rid of their oligarchs" => Haha. I'll be back from my cryo chamber in 10 years. We'll see how that went.

glitzersachen,

@futurebird @incoherentmumblings @tob

Arguably you (I mean: the US) never sank this deep. Which doesn't mean it was well.

The worst => Frankly, that is/was still Nazi Germany. Though "they are not Nazis" would be pretty weak defense.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @futurebird @tob

"You could argue that the US is not a developed country." => That is a stupid game of words. Of course the US is a "developed" country, but infected by a particular annoying kind of capitalism.

All so called "developed" countries have the one or the other weakness.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @futurebird @tob

And I am not doing "second world" without apostrophes. For $reasons.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

But not after the nazis were established, which sort of was you point: First comes the low point, the the push-backs develop.

WRT the actual push-backs before 33: You refer to the Spartacus Bund?

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @futurebird @tob

Like, they don't have industry? Most people are unemployed? Nobody got a car? There is only wealth for a small corrupt elite? There is no law enforcement? There are not citizen rights?

(I mean, yes all this has flaws, as probably everywhere, but I'd propose you look into the history of some other countries that where left as husks after colonization and then you refine your theory a bit).

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

Generally I think, what we had in D was not actually what one would call wide spread resistance,

"there was still a lot of underground left opposition."

I'd oppose the idea of "a lot". Also was there did not lead to D liberating itself, so it's not a support for your theory of push-backs.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

So, when it was worst, it could get better, right? But before it could get better, even then, it had to get worse (according to your theory). Since, regardless were you stand, it has to get worse before it can get better. So when it was worst (at time t1), we know it got better later (at time t2). But since it had to get worse before that, at time t1 it was not worst, because it had to get even worse than at t1.

Your theory has contradictions.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

If we do not apply logic, on the other side, it becomes a meaningless trivial saying: "You know, perhaps it has to get worse (your poor chump), before it can get better".

This kind of sentences, posing as theories of history, enrage me.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

(b) A theory that cannot identify the actual certain situation (provide a recipe to distinguish those situation from those where it doesn't apply) is worthless, because it cannot be falsified (see Karl Popper, The Logic of Scientific Discovery).

You sentence "sometimes it has to get worse ..." is just a meaningless phrase of small-talk. It does not help to understand anything.

(b) I am taking offense at the "has" which implies a mechanism of necessity.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

Your "sometimes it has to get worse" is observationally completely indistinguishable from "sometimes it gets worse, we don't know why, could have gotten better, but it got worse"

The latter sentence is also completely not helpful.

"Sometimes, in history, a war happens". "Some people die in wars". "Some (unspecified) time after some wars, people who didn't die in he war, fare better than they did before the war".

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

Well, yes, Greece and Spain would like to have word here. Not all fascist dictatorships are overthrown by a war. Some more or less peter out, because they could not be overthrown.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

I think we need to agree to disagree.

"I have given lectures on it myself."

Given the quality of your admittedly late night argument, I'm a bit surprised.

You where I think the one trying to apply this to the US. Which was, frankly, unconvincing. Esp. in the context of Trump vs. Biden. This should not be am opportunity for both-siding. The orange menace is by far the more insidious cancer.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

That was an example where the fascist dictatorship was not overthrown in a spectacular fashion. Of course we can no discuss the meaning of "fascist" and if it applies there. I am not inclined to do so. I have better fish to fry.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

" When you got cancer, you have to do chemo and it will make you worse at first. "

Depends on your definition of worse. You life expectation gets better from day one. The amount of days you're going to barf gets less from day one.
So day zero: No life expectation. Day 1: Good life expectation, (N-1) barfing days, Day 2: Good life expectation, (N-2) barfing days.

Arguably it only gets better.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

I have a problem with the word "has" here and the rather fuzzy pre-conditions. But whatever floats your boat. It certainly doesn't float mine.

glitzersachen,

@incoherentmumblings @tob @futurebird

Perhaps we should by you completely and concisely stating your theory and showing how it fits in the context of the OP. Because I, certainly, am lost.

But I feel a certainly reluctance to go the rest of this way with you: For once, I feel certain vibrations in your responses I can do without and second, its late and I have other things to do in the coming week.

buermann, to random
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Israeli whistleblowers from the Sde Teiman concentration camp told CNN how Israeli doctors "amputated prisoners’ limbs due to injuries sustained from constant handcuffing; of medical procedures sometimes performed by underqualified medics earning it a reputation for being “a paradise for interns”; and where the air is filled with the smell of neglected wounds left to rot."

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd

glitzersachen,

@Blinxeto @buermann

This comparison in turn, unfortunately, can be made and be argued to be valid. As can be done with the CIA and Homeland Security in a certain different state.

glitzersachen,

@Blinxeto @buermann

I am so sick of this all.

glitzersachen,

@Blinxeto @buermann

"all agree, even the torturer" => I am not so sure here. I have been reading a lot on the third Reich (I am German, so it was obvious to start there), some on the Pinochet regime, a fair bit on the Gulag and some on Guantanamo.

The mind of the torturer is still a mystery to me. One explanation is, that not all torturers are alike, but it takes a mixture to make a "successful" torture regime.

glitzersachen,

@Blinxeto @buermann

I am pretty sure there are zealots who really think they're doing a good thing by "sticking it" to the enemy (who is sub-human to them). Others just lack affect and empathy and do "as they are told".

Then there are the sadists ...

Though in total, I am pretty sure the torturer who knows that "this is not good" and is just forced by circumstances to go with it, is a pretty rare animal.On average, torturers are convinced they need to do this.

glitzersachen,

@Blinxeto @buermann

The point is, I think, that they consider it either right or they are sociopaths (no conscience) and consider it advantageous to themselves (they are sadists or they like the status or the money).

If you ask why a torturer does what they do, the question what this is (objectively) is irrelevant. Only what it means to them gives any insight to their motives.

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