koherecoWatchdog

@koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone

I oppose binary gender divisions in sports & advocate all inclusive testosterone level divisions instead. This idea has been censored as: “#transphobia”.

Consequently, I no longer post publicly from #freeradical.zone.

previous bio:

If a post contains a link to a walled garden (e.g. Facebook, Cloudflare, or Quora), I will not boost it. All posts I write & all boosts from me are openly accessible to everyone.

This profile is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

dsfgs, to random

@gabboman @koherecoWatchdog @mypdns @jerry @aypapi
We somehow got included in this thread by @digitalocean, and are not entirely sure why. Did we say something at some time?

Gabboman, hello, nice to come across your work, and good to see you are not using bad goog scripts. Unfortunately, the code is on MSGithub (only?) and your site is hosted on Oracle servers, which DFCA blocks. It will be interesting to learn more about your site in time, though. Does 'wafrn' stand for something?

koherecoWatchdog,

@dsfgs @aypapi @jerry @mypdns @gabboman I can’t see above digitalocean@infosec.place’s post so I’m lost. I can’t even directly visit that post.

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koherecoWatchdog, (edited )

I oppose exclusivity in sports. Gender is irrelevant in most sports & unsuitable as a criteria for athletic divisions. Testosterone level is the ideal criteria for division. This gender-agnostic non-binary stance best serves trans athletes. It’s inherently inclusive & simultaneously fair to ignore gender & divide by T levels. This idea triggers ppl determined to preserve binary gender divisions to the ironic extent of slinging the “” label to rationalize .

koherecoWatchdog,

(esp. the quiet variety) of factually accurate civil msgs is an uncivil act. Particularly whilst preserving uncivil replies. They could not explain why my advocacy is “transphobic”. They could only call me a bigot & hope it sticks. I don’t give a shit about the accusations of hot-heads but the suppression of msgs by those who can’t articulate better speech in response to disliked ideas is unacceptable. It sacrifices a chance to correct transphobia (had the accusation been accurate).

koherecoWatchdog,

The discussion could have inspired interesting offshoot chatter like “what about wrestling?” Or “what about privacy… maybe 25 y.o. women don’t want their high T level exposed…”, etc. Instead, low quality uncivil mud-slinging replies were given center stage by suppressing the civil msgs. I recently discovered mstdn.social was also silently limiting my msgs until recently. I’m not in a good place here.

koherecoWatchdog,

If you participated in my recent poll surveying why males & females are in separate athletic divisions, that poll was censored & those vote results are trashed.

koherecoWatchdog,

@jos Testosterone is the reason for the status quo (male/female divisions). “In every event on thousands of occasions, men exceeded women’s results.”¹

Strength is likely the most important factor in most cases, which testosterone facilitates both during the event as well as building strength in yrs of training leading up to it. Gender has been a ½-assed way of doing a T level division. So ignore gender & look directly at what’s signficant.

https://breakpoint.org/yes-mens-and-womens-sports-should-be-separated/

koherecoWatchdog,

@jos I’ve not heard of integrated ranking systems. But anything that scraps gender is probably worth looking at.

koherecoWatchdog,

@fubar I didn’t read the whole article you ref’d (let me know if i should). I saw right away they were misusing testosterone tests.

They were not creating T level divisions-- they were doing a male/female division then using T levels as a means for exclusion. I’m opposed to that.

I actually don’t oppose the use of steroids, so long as T levels are fairly matched between competitors.

koherecoWatchdog,

@fubar There are competency divisions to /some/ extent. E.g. special olympics would be an example of that. Seems tricky to do on a more granular scale. I’ve not looked at it closely, but it sounds like an athlete can get burnt just by a tricky misplacement of division. That’s my off-the-cuff thought.

koherecoWatchdog,

@fubar Trying to make sense of what you’re saying. How is testosterone divisions “anti-women”? When female divisions were created, it was for women’s benefit so they didn’t get pushed aside & driven out. Testosterone is a more accurate measure of the same purpose (to include women in sports).

koherecoWatchdog,

@fubar Complexity is not a favorable attribute. Athletes need to trust the system.

If you’re banning an athlete, you’re doing it wrong. There is a serious problem with any athletic organization that bans an athlete.

There should always be a top division for the heaviest, strongest, most X attribute of whatever you’re measuring, & everyone without exception should be eligible for that top division.

koherecoWatchdog,

@fubar When I was a competitor, it was by divided by gender & weight classes. Gender can be substituted for T level.

The interesting thing about weight classes is an athlete’s weight determined the min division they could compete in, not the max. Everyone chose the min division typically not even knowing they had a choice. But we did have the option of taking a bigger challenge & competing in a higher weight class than we qualified in.

koherecoWatchdog, (edited )

@fubar When you say “excluding people” you’ve misunderstood me. Exclusion is unacceptible. There should always be a top tier division that excludes no one.

Divide it up in whatever is sensible for the sport (weight, T level, rank) to keep it fair w/in each division. But the highest division should have no exclusivity criteria based on their physiology. If someone has unsportsmanlike conduct issues, sure.. but their chemistry & other physical attributes should be welcome /somewhere/.

koherecoWatchdog, (edited )

@fubar btw, i don’t mean to dismiss the competency divisions. It’s something I need to study. I could only give my knee-jerk thought now; that complexity is unfavorable.

It could be the winning idea in the end. But my other knee-jerk thought is: if I’m placed in a low competency group it’d destroy my fragile ego before the competition even begins; how bad do i want to be the champ of a low competency group? My sense of pride & fulfillment may fair better if winning in a light weight class.

shantini, to random
@shantini@techhub.social avatar

I feel like the forced birth pipeline starts very early - insisting that girls and women fit into gender norms and prioritize marriage and children above all else. Making them critical of their bodies and appearances to serve this purpose.

I even think transphobia is another manifestation of this - reducing people to their “biological” functions and using that to determine where in the societal hierarchy they fall. The same thing has been done with race time and time again.

This is why you can’t fall for what appear to be academic debates about “when life begins” and “are trans kids in sports getting an unfair advantage.” It’s never about those things at all, and in fact, those are deliberate, reasonable-sounding talking points generated to try to recruit more people to bigotry.

koherecoWatchdog,

@shantini There is a theory that homosexuality is a natural population control. Not sure how well founded or developed that idea is, but it seems like a concept worth deploying against those who attempt to push the rigid socialization of shoe-horning all women into a role.

koherecoWatchdog,

@shantini Although I guess it would still fail to steer people away from using biological purpose as a driver for their ideologies.. it would perhaps just hack on it by changing their concept of biological purpose.

koherecoWatchdog,

@samfromtheus
Your bullet points are all correct. Hence why I voted for the last option in this poll:

https://catcatnya.com/@wyldcat/110535921108411701

I’m not sure what reasoning would lead you to ban a 7 ft. athlete. If you mean the same reasoning as that of the Cloudflared article you referenced, indeed exclusion is the worst possible outcome. Luckily no one here advocates for exclusion (the 3rd option in @wyldcat’s poll).

aral, to random
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

Was away for a week visiting my parents. Don’t get to see them nearly enough, in no small part thanks to our lovely “European Values” meaning they have to jump through more hoops to come visit us in Ireland than they can manage at their age. You see, we don’t really see non-Europeans as human in Europe. They’re something less. A potential threat.

I may have an EU passport and pass for white but I never forget that. In fact, I think about it every time I miss my parents.

koherecoWatchdog,

@aral @tio @aral Is that also in Ireland where they require you to support your g/f? I’m confused because you say she’s your g/f yet you’re married. Was it a non-EU marriage.. is that the issue?

koherecoWatchdog,

@tio @aral @tio Well I’m baffled. An EU marriage w/one person being an EU citizen-- I would have expected that to entitle your wife (by law) to reside with you, and that entitlement to residency should also automatically entitle her to work in Spain as well. I’m surprised Spain has that red tape & that it’s even legal for Spain to do that under EU laws.

koherecoWatchdog,

@kkarhan @aral @tio When I visit the thread on mstdn.social, indeed it is very broken. But when viewing the same thread on social.trom.tf, it appears continuous (no orphaned posts AFAICT). mstdn.social has 31k active members, so it’s bizarre that the thread is so broken & minimal on that big far-reaching server. Perhaps there is something stux@mstdn.social doesn’t want ppl to see?

koherecoWatchdog,

@cnx @tio @kkarhan @aral ~6 or so mstdn.social ppl follow me & probably a couple orders of magnitude more must be following aral (36k followers) from there. Aral’s OP made it to the mstdn.social fed timeline: https://mstdn.social/@aral@mastodon.ar.al/110560844232625033 & Tio was boosted by Aral thus Tio’s post made it to the mstdn fed TL. Wouldn’t the middle posts be fetched notwithstanding blocks?

koherecoWatchdog,

@idoubtit not sure what conclusion you worked out given the same set of facts, but it was in fact a case of acct limiting in the end.

LadyDragonfly, to random

Calling bigotry an "opinion" is like calling arsenic a "flavor".

koherecoWatchdog, (edited )

@LadyDragonfly I boosted this but now I cannot agree. Flavors don’t manifest from arsenic but opinions manifest from bigotry.

The purpose of the quote is (presumably) to rationalize the censorship of bigotry-driven opinions. You can’t censor bigotry but you can censor the opinions.

Bigotry is invisible but somewhat detectible from opinions & actions. You don’t detect arsenic from flavor but you can detect bigotry from words & actions. Ppl can be lousy detectors of bigotry as my profile shows.

koherecoWatchdog,

@LadyDragonfly A sad number of people are keen to censor speech that goes against their world view. It’s more convenient than arguing their case which demands more articulation than some people can handle. They will falsely frame things as & as a tool to do so, as they did with me.

koherecoWatchdog, (edited )

@LadyDragonfly That says I oppose binary gender divisions. It says I oppose excluding people. It says I endorse T level divisions. What part of that are you basing your claim on? Can you explain your rationale?

(edit)
exactly.. couldn’t rationalize the claim thus chose to block instead. Supports what I just said quite well.

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