mojo_raisin

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mojo_raisin,
  • Fluoride is a neurotoxin, easy info to look up (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7230026/). Even if this is unproven, should we be putting drugs in the water where there are questions about how it affects brain development? If lead was good for our teeth, would that justify adding lead to our water?
  • Drugging a population through tap water is a terrible way to dispense drugs. If you disagree, do you mind if I put LSD in your water? It’s been shown to have positive effects on mental health. How about lithium, should be add that too? Lithium is naturally found in some water also and also has been show to have positive mental effect in those areas, same story that got us to put fluoride in our water.
  • Our tap water effects so much more than our teeth, ignoring all other effects because it reduces tooth decay is plain dumb.
  • Fluoride is a mineral and builds up. Decades of fluoridated tap water used in gardens and our environment mean ever increasing toxin in our environment. It’s bad for plants (also easy to look up) and it’s effects on animals, birds, etc is unknown. Is it ok to gamble the well-being of other species when the tooth decay problem can be solved in ways without added risk?
  • The fluoride added to tap water is not of pharmaceutical quality, it’s a waste product of fertilizer or nuclear material industries.
mojo_raisin,

Depending on your definitions (empathy, sympathy, and compassion are often confusingly defined and contradictory between dictionaries), you ARE empathizing by realizing they are mental children. You’re just not sympathizing and therefore deciding no longer to act with compassion, which makes plenty of sense to me.

IMHO it’s good to empathize with the right (understand your attacker), but it’s also important have to understand that whatever the underlying reasons, these people, when activated into an idiot army they become a dangerous group.


The definitions that make the most sense to me is

Empathy - understanding the perspective of another, where there desires and fears come from. It takes intelligence to not just project one’s own personality on everyone else and understand that they are different.

Sympathy - Feeling in sync with another (like when you speak of sympathetic guitar strings causing each other to vibrate). Like you see the bombing in Gaza and not just understand that they don’t want to be bombed (empathy), but imagining the pain of losing your child.

Compassion - The positive treatment of another due to having sympathy for them

mojo_raisin,

Nancy Reagan, who briefly dated Christopher Walken’s father before marrying the former president, shown here explaining how politics really works.

mojo_raisin,

Then there’s the temperateur, controlling the thermostat in France.

mojo_raisin,

If you like Atom, Pulsar is basically Atom continued under a different name.

pulsar-edit.dev

"Grow up. These are my movies, not yours": George Lucas Won't be Happy How Star Wars Fan Group is Illegally Saving the Original Trilogy (fandomwire.com)

The original trilogy of Star Wars films, spearheaded by George Lucas were critical and commercial successes. However, in 1997 Lucas released the “Special Edition” of the films for the trilogy’s 20th anniversary, which featured extensive changes to the original theatrical cuts....

mojo_raisin,

Imagine Jackson Pollock making his art unavailable and replacing it with polka dots and pinstripes and expecting the same respect. Or Picasso embarrassed of his cubism phase and making his art unavailable and replacing it with realism and saying “these are my paintings, get over it”.

mojo_raisin,

Or have your phone location turned on and be super boring back and forth. When you deviate use a burner.

mojo_raisin,

That’s silly, the greatest song was made in 1999 by Kool Keith.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4y9IZqJEhw

mojo_raisin,

Yep, to move the Overton Window to the right. The left should do this as well. If a group of real leftist put out a political platform it would make Biden look like a Republican.

  • Completly ban lobbying
  • Free healthcare for all
  • Free college for all
  • Housing guarantee - homelessness not acceptable
  • Billionaires fortunes taken and redistributed
  • Ban fossil fuel subsidies
  • Military exit from all countries except as part of multi-lateral peace keeping forces

Stuff like that

mojo_raisin,

Ya, I wish they were more effective. I’d also like to see more from the less authoritarian side of the left.

mojo_raisin,

But you’d have to put your representatives in an isolation chamber

Interesting… lol

But in all seriousness, I’d say the number of reps we have it wouldn’t be impractical for a yearly complete IRS audit for each of them that has real consequences like losing your position, repaying victims fully, and/or going to prison.

mojo_raisin,

I was speaking of the general authoritarian vs libertarian divide in the left. It’s not about power excercised, it’s about the power some on the left feel entitled to exercise to achieve their goals.

Everyone on the left wants to make the world a better place, eliminate hunger and homelessness, all that good stuff.

–> The terminology is confusing though as different groups use different words or definitions.

On the one side you have your (authoritarian) “socialists”, and “communists” those who believe that order must be imposed from above by a powerful government and this government. Good social behavior is coerced by implied threat of force. This government of course is supposed to be and remain benevolent and always controlled by well-meaning socialists to ensure a functional socialist system. The DSA fits in here on the lighter side, “tankies” fit here on the extreme authoritarian end.

On the other side you have your anarchist types (who are also typically non-authoritarian communists), those who feel that any entity powerful enough to control society will inevitably end up controlled by the worst type of people (because this is what’s happened in every state/government that has ever existed) and the we should look to non-state and non-coercive solutions.

mojo_raisin,

I don’t think it makes sense to completely abolish cars. There will always be transport needs where public transport, trains, or bicycles just don’t fit the bill. There will be car and racing enthusiasts for the next century (assume we don’t collapse). The car industry needs to be reduced by 99% though, mostly transforming into maintaining existing cars rather than producing new ones.

Some people will want to or need to live or work where public transit systems would be impractical to build. You can’t spend 80 million dollars on a transit system out in the sticks and you can’t force everyone to live like sardines next to a bus stop.

mojo_raisin,

Ya, this is the response I always get from tankies.

mojo_raisin,

False dichotomy, it’s all of our fault. We are all perpetuators of the system, some small, some large. Just like with cocaine, placing all the blame on the producers and ignoring the massive demand and the reasons for it isn’t how drug problems are solved.

For things to change, we all need to change, if your effect is small because you’re just a person, the needed change is small, like buying less and making better choices. If you’re a large perpetuator like a company, the needed change is large, up to and including stopping or radically altering operations because they are fundamentally unsustainable (e.g. Exxon).

In a capitalist world, if there’s a demand it will be supplied consequences be damned.

mojo_raisin,

It’s not about shame, it’s about too much energy added to a system causing imbalance. Large scale use of nuclear or fossil energy does the same thing as adding tons of nitrogen to a lake (eutrophication). It’s temporarily great for the few nitrogen lovers but otherwise destroys the ecosystem.

By using nuclear or fossil energy, humans are causing the equivalent of eutrophication of our own environment.

mojo_raisin,

To my knowledge, electric energy generated by heated water is not producing any kind of effect comparable to nitrogen dumped into a lake or CO2 into the atmosphere. If there’s some source suggesting otherwise, I’d be curious to read it.

You’re not understanding my analogy.

Eutrophication is the addition of too much food for one type of living thing in an environment, allowing it’s population to grow too large for the ecosystem to support. This is exactly what the Green Revolution was for humanity.

I think you’re confusing fossil fuels with fossil fertilizers.

I’m talking about fossil energy in general, all forms of it. Fossil fertilizers are one form of fossil energy.

mojo_raisin,

Yes, all of those things make it more likely for human numbers to grow even more, and in the process making more species extinct, and habitats destroyed.

Physics and biology tell us we are living unsustainably. Free energy just makes exploitation of the planet more efficient, wipe out nature even faster with more humans.

If we expect to exist in 100 years, degrowth is the only answer, green energy is a scam.

mojo_raisin,

The fact that nuclear is still significantly better than

If you ignore that near everlasting radioactive waste problem we have yet to come with a solution for.

mojo_raisin,

If you do that then count the deaths finding and acquiring nuclear materials, the political tensions nuclear materials cause and any related deaths, the deaths of people building the plant, the engineers that died in car accidents in the decade going back and forth to the office in their gas car in the plant planning stages, etc.

There is no perfect energy source, we should stop looking for “the one”, use the nuclear plants we have as we degrow and use more green energy (which is a scam if sold as a solution for eco problems on it’s own).

mojo_raisin,

Still not quite getting my analogy. I’m not merely speaking of calories, or how we decide to dispose of waste.

I haven’t seen any evidence of this.

–> I’ve never seen anyone use this terminology before about “human eutrophication”, I made it up. But if you want more info on this topic, www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVjhb8Nu1Sk

The evidence is the apparent non-sustainable lifestyle that is only possible by the addition of energy not part of the natural short-term energy cycle of the planet. We are making species go extinct and destroying this planet.

By using fossil/nuclear energy we are able to produce enough food to quadruple the population this planet could sustain without that extra energy. All those extra people need more than food, and in producing all the other needs for this expanded population, we damage the ecosystem. The planet is not ours to use, we are

mojo_raisin,

Completely agree, I put puncutation outside the quotes, screw the rules, being sensical is more important.

mojo_raisin,

It’s not really useful

I feel like I hear about it all the time in advanced tech like batteries and semi-conductors.

mojo_raisin,

Aluminum is dollar store tin, fight me.

mojo_raisin,

or white then too huh?

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