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strypey

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strypey, (edited ) to random
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Where to start with this failure of basic fact-checking:

https://token-information.com/the-gnu-thaler-digital-cash-without-blockchain/

First the persistent misspelling of Taler as "Thaler".

> GNU sounds like an African animal

It is, sometimes known as a wildebeest.

> But it is digital money

Nope. It's a currency-agnostic digital payment system.

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#GNUTaler #FactChecking #TechJournalism

strypey,
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> a joint project of the Swiss National Bank and the Bern University of Applied Sciences

Nope. It's developed as part of the GNU Project by Taler Systems SA:

https://taler-systems.com/

BEAS were involved in the first practical trial in 2020:

https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2020/fall/free-software-payment-system-launches-at-swiss-university

... following which the SNB issued a paper co-authored with one of the Taler founders, and the creator of eCash:

https://www.snb.ch/en/mmr/papers/id/working_paper_2021_03

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strypey,
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> Central banks are thinking about digital money

Nope. They are thinking about digital tokens that can represent money like cash does. Ok that one is a bit of a nitpick, but this piece is published on a site that claims to advise investors about digital finance. You'd think their writers would know the difference between money, cash, currency etc and use the right terms in the right places.

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strypey,
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> [is] the thaler... a new cryptocurrency the answer to that question is yes and no. Yes, because it is digital cash

Nope. Again, cash and currency are two different things.

> No, because the thalers are not mined.

Lots of crypto-tokens are not mined. Even Ethereum doesn't use mining anymore, after switching to a proof-of-stake algorithm.

Two paragraphs in, this writer's credibility on this subject is looking a bit patchy.

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strypey, to random
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"We investigate the cost of Grover's quantum search algorithm when used in the context of pre-image attacks on the SHA-2 and SHA-3 families of hash functions. Our cost model assumes that the attack is run on a surface code based fault-tolerant quantum computer. Our estimates rely on a time-area metric that costs the number of logical qubits times the depth of the circuit in units of surface code cycles."

et al, 2016

https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/992

strypey,
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@screwtape
> this is the one that basically halves the number of bits of encryption you used expecting a classical attack?

This question is way beyond me :P I just stumbled upon the paper by following a link in something else I was reading, and thought it might be interesting to share.

strypey, to music
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"You're looking for the boy of your dreams who is the same boy in the dreams of all your friends."

, 'The Sweater'

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JFfy0dMKIi8

This track still makes me giggle. I re-listened to the album last year and it was well worth it. Quirky and hilarious and surprisingly touching in places.

tchambers, (edited ) to fediverse

🚨 Want to help build a robust bridge and relays between & networks? (:fediverse:

Live only for a few hours - we launched this group late last night - it already has over 40 developers/followers starting to do exactly that.

➡️ @activitypubblueskybridge

If you are working on this, or want to, go follow that mastodon-compatible Frendica group & introduce yourself!

cc: @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey,
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@tchambers
It would be great to see a category for bridges on SocialHub, with a topic for each network people are bridging to. That could be a good place to summarize the social, political, and technical issues raised by each, in a more discoverable and permanently archived way. Because of that, threads there might be less knee-jerk than some of the hot takes in the replies you're getting here.

@activitypubblueskybridge @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey,
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@mastodonmigration
> check out the Bluesky Terms of Service for using the AT Protocol

The wording here is unclear on whether these ToS apply to any use of the AT Protocol. I'm guessing it's just ToS for using bsky.social, because any protocol encumbered with this kind of legal baggage is a non-starter. I imagine things will become clearer once the number of instances federating over AT is >1.

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@tchambers @activitypubblueskybridge @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey,
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@mastodonmigration
In the meantime, why not explore the AT tech? Discover what it would take to make a functioning bridge, or implement an AT lite in existing fedi apps to allow interactions with AT users on our terms (no spam, no algorithmic manipulation, no mass harvesting of posts or whatever). Worst case scenario, the people doing it waste their time. Even then, they might learn some stuff useful in improving AP.

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@tchambers @activitypubblueskybridge @mmasnick @anildash @manton

strypey, to random
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about , which according to their website;

"... is being proposed as a standard at the Web Platform Incubator Community Group":

https://webmonetization.org/

strypey, (edited )
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Fediverse blog platform Write.as added it in 2020:

"... Web Monetization allows you to buy a single subscription through a provider such as Coil, and get access to all paid content across the web that supports Web Monetization. This includes blogs on Write.as, an ad-free experience on Imgur, independent sites from around the web, and plenty more. With that subscription, all you need is a special browser or extension to access paid content."

https://write.as/blog/monetize-your-writing-with-micropayments

strypey,
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Here's an interview with Stefan Thomas, CEO of Coil, that goes into some technical details on how the design for the InterLedger Protocols (ILP) led to Web Monetization as a proposed web standard:

https://www.w3.org/blog/2019/09/w3c-interview-coil-on-interledger-protocol-and-web-monetization/

It also includes some helpful explanations on the logic involved in the design of internet protocols

#Coil #StefanThomas #InterLedger #ILP #WebPayments #WebMonetization #OpenStandards #OpenProtocols

strypey,
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I wonder if Web Monetization is being considered for implementation by the team behind GNU Talers?

https://token-information.com/the-gnu-thaler-digital-cash-without-blockchain/

strypey,
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@kravietz
> [Web Monetization] seems effectively dead today as coil.com went out of business

That doesn't seem like a good sign. But the InterLedger Foundation still seems to be very active. Could be they are working with other companies for...

> bridging the deposit side (user subscriptions) with payout side

If the tech works, and especially if it's still on track to be a W3C standard, maybe one could be set up as a platform cooperative?

strypey,
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@kravietz
"ad-tech turned websites into massively oversized) bulletin boards that basically publish untrusted HTML distributed by an obscure network of third-parties of dubious reputation and unlimited appetite for unrestrained access to your web browser."

https://krvtz.net/posts/state-of-web-micropayments.html

The problem isn't the HTML so much as the JavaScript.

strypey,
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Clearly I need to do some more reading on this, but from what I've read so far, this...

@silverpill
> Ripple, Interledger, WebMonetization, Coil, Uphold etc are all parts of the the same machine

... doesn't seem like a fair description. Coil has shut down but the InterLedger Foundation still seem very active.

> They call it "open standard", but it is tied to a small set of API providers (centralized and KYC)

The whole point of the standard is that anyone can be an API provider.

@Hyolobrika

strypey, (edited )
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@silverpill
> FEP-0ea0 is intended to be a replacement for FEP-8c3f

What makes Web Monetization interesting is that from a user POV it works like a subscription. But one subscription that can support many publishers. Your FEP appears to implement micropayments, which have been tried and failed again and again since the 90s and will never work, for reasons discussed here:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110262616796875855

@Hyolobrika

strypey,
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I'm not disputing that these things are interconnected. But that's not the same thing as...

@silverpill
> a small group of companies and organizations used as a front for Ripple

You could map a similar set of connections through the fediverse to imply that @cwebber is in charge of every organization connected to the fediverse.

Do you have any evidence for the implied claim that the people in charge of InterLedger Foundation or WebMonetization.org were behind the Ripple scam?

@Hyolobrika

strypey,
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@silverpill
> My FEP... simply describes a way to mark any link as "payment link"

Some people may want to tip a creator for a PeerTube video or WriteFreely blog they enjoyed. Hell, maybe some will even want to tip a particularly insightful Mastodon post. I'm not against experimenting with this busking hat approach, in a way that doesn't depend on crypto-tokens (as does the tipping on Minds, Odysee etc).

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@Hyolobrika

strypey,
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@silverpill
But the digital busking hat is not the same thing as the nagless, single-subscription approach of the Web Monetization standard. Maybe it's a dead-end for technical reasons I don't yet understand. But as a user, I like it, and if the only barrier is the lack of payment providers, I'd be happy to talk to folks like LiberaPay, OpenCollective, and Flattr about getting on board, or even work on setting one up as a platform cooperative.

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@Hyolobrika

strypey, to random
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"Access journalism from premium publishers, without subscriptions or ads. Pay just for what you read – a few cents per article."

https://go.post.news/

. Despite their good intentions, Post will fail as long as its revenue model is based on MicroPayments. As Clay Shirky famously put it...

> The Short Answer for Why Micropayments Fail

> Users hate them

https://scribe.rip/the-case-against-micropayments-from-fear-and-surprise-to-the-comfy-chair-e00bb81a696c

... and that's not going to change.

strypey,
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@jillianne
> EM’s recent announcement

Any good critical articles on this you could link me to?

strypey,
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@jillianne
Thanks. This is hilarious. Web publishing funded by micropayments are a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that tech businesses have tried and failed to reach since the 90s. Either Melon Husk hasn't done his due diligence before launching into this, or he has the hubris to think he will succeed where all others have failed.

strypey,
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@jillianne
> Melon Husk (I'm stealing this btw)

It's public domain ;) Besides I can't take the credit, I spoonerized to Melon Usk but i didn't even think about adding the H until I saw someone else do it 🤣

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    strypey,
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    The things SubStack provides that most superficially similar online publishing platforms don't, is sending out posts by email, and more importantly, the built-in subscription functions that allow people to pay writers. In a nutshell, SubStack is WordPress + MailChimp + Patreon. Anything that doesn't do all three is not a full SubStack replacement, although it may work for use cases that don't care about web blogs or email or income.

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