strypey

strypey, 1 year ago

@volkris
> That the guy didn’t acquire the resources to make his platform more successful

If sacrificing virgins would have made Mastodon more successful, should he have acquired those resources?

> the platform has not been so successful

That depends on entirely on your definition of success.

strypey, 1 year ago

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub
> If people want to attack a nostr user they're going to be able to create unlimited npubs directly on here for that purpose

This is exactly why some fedi people are looking sideways at Mostr and the whole idea of unmoderated bridges.

@alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

> Kill yourself

Classic example, thanks Eris.

@alex @40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub
> If people don't like one persons posts the answer is to block that user, not a bridge

I'm sympathetic to that position, but what if you're being dogpiled by accounts from one server? Blocking a server can be the only way to avoid playing whack-a-mole with an army of sockpuppets.

@alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@eris
Every nasty thing you say is really directed inwards. I'm sorry you hate yourself so totally and I hope things get better for you.

@alex @40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

> I think we may see fediverse servers defederate with mostr, and that worries me

I think I pretty much covered that here:
https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110339357053374801

TL;DR you will, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. For bridges who are good fedizens, moderating their output, It won't be all of them.

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @alex

strypey, 1 year ago

@victor
> the "harassed" user should be able to block the entire NIP-05 domain if they want, which is functionally equivalent to blocking a fedi instance

That's useful information, as is all the detail in this post. Thanks.

@76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub @alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@victor
> you have fedi again

If you bridge to the 'verse, you're part of the 'verse and the social dynamics, good and bad, that come with it.

Don't want that? Shut down Mostr and any other bridge, the same way universal search projects for fedi get shut down.

@76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub @alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub
> I just want everyone to come together as one big happy extremely dysfunctional family. Is that too much to ask?

I think this sums it up pretty well:
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you-speed-run-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/

@alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @eris @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@eris
> Once porn is illegal worldwide we need to gut all forms of blocking

This kind of hyperbolic attitude is precisely the reason some fedizens are looking sideways at the whole idea of Nostr bridges.

@alex @40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub
> Disabling the bridge would be fediblock on steroids.

I think Rabble was referring to Nostr users disabling the bridge for their accounts. Am I barking up the wrong tree there @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub?

@eris @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @alex

strypey, 1 year ago

@46da9d8ac399a2ec9b2fbbf8bfb515@mostr.pub
You can't suppress the truth. You can only take out the trash. You're welcome to bathe in dung and call it rosewater, but for some reason most people prefer not to hang out at the Nazi bar:

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/14/substack-ceo-chris-best-doesnt-realize-hes-just-become-the-nazi-bar/

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strypey, 1 year ago

@alex
> This is a matter of the Nostr bridge either not existing at all, or Mastodon changes something

Not going to hold my breath waiting for that.

@5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub

Nostr and the fedi can happily co-exist, fulfilling different needs, just as we have with SSB. But I'm not convinced bridging the two makes any more sense than trying to bridge fedi with the matrix federation. Open to being convinced though :)

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@alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@40dba08627a2f2c69c3031666149b5@mostr.pub
> while better than blocking the bridge we are still transferring one of the worst parts of fedi to nostr

This is another reason. For fedi folks, server-level moderation is not a bug it's a feature, and a crucial one.

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@alex @5be6446aa8a31c11b3b453bf8dafc9@mostr.pub @76c71aae3a491f1d9eec47cba17e22@mostr.pub

strypey, 1 year ago

@Matt5sean3
> making "public" pull a lot of ethical weight

Let me ask you this. If an activist group you're campaigning with puts out a press release, do you want news media to ask for explicit consent before publishing it? If not, why not? If your group has a website making the arguments for your cause, do you expect search engines toask for explicit consent before indexing it? If not, why not?

@feditips @datatitian

strypey, 1 year ago

@datatitian
"If you want to support Guppe and prevent it shutting down..."

I can pledge $20 for this year at least.

> Guppe’s source code is available if anyone would like to operate their own server in its stead

Can we migrate Guppe groups to a different server? Such that we can still look at the Guppe actor to see the group's posting history? I'm guessing not, due to dependence of fedi IDs on domain names. But if it was possible, many small servers could replace one?

@feditips

strypey, 1 year ago

@feditips @datatitian An @mention is an opt-in activity. @mentioning a public group in a post is actively asking for that post to be widely distributed to any number of unknown people. If that post could be reliably identified as being relayed by a public group, it would surely be ethical to treat it as public, and include it in a search system, wouldn't it?

strypey, 1 year ago

@feditips
"It’s a common question how this differs from hashtags. The difference is a hashtag is a passive tool, it helps you organize posts from within your existing network, while Guppe is an active tool, it actively distributes posts across the fediverse in order to help you grow your network."

@datatitian

Https://web.immers.space/2023/05/farewell-to-guppe

Could this be the basis of an opt-in way of doing search in the fediverse?

strypey, 1 year ago

@Matt5sean3
Funny you should pop up here, I was just going to invite you to comment 😅

Did you read the full article I linked, and all the posts in the thread? Without that context, or an existing familiarity with Guppe groups, the logic of what I'm proposing may not be clear.

@feditips @datatitian

strypey, 1 year ago

@idanoo
> Proxmox is... more on-prem than cloud

Good to know. That might be useful for a local job we've been offered.

@aurynn @lightweight

strypey, 1 year ago

@aurynn
> The next generation of the system will be using Nomad as a container fabric

This one?
https://www.nomadproject.io/

What do you see as the advantages of this over other options like Kubernetes, ProxMox or Docker?

@idanoo @lightweight

strypey, 1 year ago

@drq
> long time no see

Indeed. Where you been?

strypey, 1 year ago

@drq
I guess it's just that it's been getting so crowded in here that we haven't bumped into each other for a while. For better or for worse (mostly better IMHO), the 'verse isn't the cozy village it used to be ; )