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RandoCalrandian

@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social

Advocate for user privacy and anonymity

Emotion-tracking AI on the job: Workers fear being watched – and misunderstood (theconversation.com)

Emotion artificial intelligence uses biological signals such as vocal tone, facial expressions and data from wearable devices as well as text and how people use their computers, to detect and predict how someone is feeling. It can be used in the workplace, for hiring, etc. Loss of privacy is just the beginning. Workers are...

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A dystopia is fictional.

This is reality.

Pretty sure most of us thought the point of all the dystopian fiction like 1984 was to move the away from this shit, and we’re just emotionally grappling with how wrong we were

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Well first you’d have to get the government to stop trying to manipulate people for power in the same way

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Shoot, pay me enough money and I’ll dress up and say “I’m back!”

‘We definitely messed up’: why did Google AI tool make offensive historical images? (www.theguardian.com)

Brin’s “We definitely messed up.”, at an AI “hackathon” event on 2 March, followed a slew of social media posts showing Gemini’s image generation tool depicting a variety of historical figures – including popes, founding fathers of the US and, most excruciatingly, German second world war soldiers – as people of...

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Generating images of black women when a white man was asked for isn’t just silly, it exposes how the outputs of these systems can be covertly directed in specific directions. We just got lucky that they fucked it up badly enough for people to prove it.

You might be fine with an AI asserting at all times and in every case that abortion is acceptable, but if you did I’m sure you’d be quite upset at a competing AI being setup and covertly managed in the same way to assert abortion is always murder, and to manipulate its user into believing so, up to and including any images being requested including abortion is murder protestors, or the subject being splashed in blood or whatever.

That’s one highly charged political point. All of them are on the table with this, especially as people start using it more than a regular search for basic information.

People only think it’s silly and don’t care because the demonstrated and injected bias seems well intentioned this time.

AI’s being directed this way, and specifically covertly in a way we can’t audit or detect, is going to be a massive problem going forward.

(Edit: that’s not even including some really nefarious shit, like repeatedly training it on the Bible and religious texts, directing it to never explicitly mention god or religion, but ensure all its outputs fall in line with religious indoctrination)

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Because he’s a middle aged white man running a Lego workshop and wants some graphics?

I’m baffled how you are baffled

Would you be baffled at a black man being upset for getting an image of a white surgeon when he specifically requested a black one, for whatever his reasons may be?

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And it is a bandaid fix, to be sure, because there will be endless problems caused by the festering bandaid. It only took Gemini a few minutes to make a stink.

This whole problem is down to the laziness of refusing to properly curate the training data, and it opens the door for some seriously nefarious manipulation of the user.

At this point, I’d support legislation mandating the training sets and “system” data added to the queries be open and auditable for commercial AI products.

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Doing the opposite of that isn’t any better

And Gemini was perfectly happy to exclude blacks from prompts about eating fried chicken and watermelon.

Turns out you can’t fight every fire with more fire, more often than not it will burn everything down. You can’t solve something as complex as systemic racism with more systemic racism just against a different group.

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It fits their internal narrative

Just a guess

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Asserting an particular behavior exists within a certain group, without evidence, and then asserting why that behavior exists, again without evidence, as support of an argument that the recently extracted from a colon comments don’t actually relate to or prove?

Yeah, pretty fucking bold.

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Wish more people would disclose they are posting their own articles

Props to you

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Not yet

3d printers are getting better every year!

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Oh no! I’ll let all my patreon subsciptions know that me ensuring I have permanent backups of their content is literally ruining their lives!

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Sounds like if you solved that last problem all the others would sort themselves out in due course

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Dozens * Dozens of allies = hundreds

Hundreds / 150,000,000 = not enough to matter to the reasons you state it does

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OP considers “privacy” to mean their bullies have a harder time screenshotting their conversations for shitposting later

Not sure why they couldn’t have just made the Reddit communities they complain about private, but oh well

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Well that’s bullshit.

Knowing what you post in a public place is public is a much safer situation than believing you are safe while someone sells the data off behind your back

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Targeted harassment becomes even easier, you’re just adding the $3 fee to the data broker and now they can correlate it between all your internet accounts.

Nothing about that situation is safer

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Then you need to grow up (harsh, I know) because even those allies are only allies because they’ve decided being so is in their benefit.

There are no selfless actions, only the attribution of such by other selfish bastards happy about the decision

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Fine.

Dozens * dozens * hundreds of communities perhaps unknown = thousands

Still not enough to make a meaningful difference.

Look, I know I’m being a hardass about this, but progress is not achieved through wishful thinking, but by understanding market forces and ensuring the inevitable consequences of them are as minimally harmful to marginalized populations as possible.

What happens when discord pulls a Reddit and disables bot access for some bullshit money reason? Then all PluralKit users are SoL

As presumptuous as I know this is, what your post and article should have been about is an explanation of how Pluralkit benefits you in the discord workflow, and how that might be best adapted to better and more user respectful platforms so that the transition of some groups becomes easier once discord starts pulling the inevitable shit.

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You can think I’m calling you delusional just because you disagreed with me if you want, I can’t stop you.

But know you are assuming my motivations, and it comes across as a further denial of reality, since if you cared about reality you would want this discussion to be on provable assertions, but everyone else itt agrees with me, so you know that’s not going to go well.

And for the record, I called your take delusional because it flies in the face of obvious data and known market forces that many others have pointed out.

I then referred to you as delusional when you completely rejected what everyone else said because it disagreed with you.

Projection, thy name is Grail

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lol, nice is subjective

Should you still think it’s nice after finding out they use being an “ally” as a mental excuse to be a shit person at all other times? Not calling anyone out, that’s well documented human behavior.

And Randian was from random, as in a rando whose words should only be judged on what they say, not who is saying them.

Haven’t actually read Atlas Shrugged or any of her other works, so your association is honestly really funny 😂

…but yes, nice people don’t exist. Only stupid monkeys who like to think of themselves as nice

(Edit: actually, you bring up a really interesting point, as my entire lemmy identity is based on not caring who is posting and instead focusing on what was said, and the bot being discussed is all about changing who is on the label of what is said to change the context about it 😂 you’re right, we may just never get along)

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And sadsacks is just a term for people who don’t study the perfect life form: unicorns!

Defining someone by the negation of their oppressors label is pretty fucking offensive.

It’d be like calling native Americans the NotWhites. It defines them by a metric they didn’t care about.

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Even agreeing with that I am pretty anti all that religious bullshit these days so I’ll often go by atheist, but you’re damn right it isn’t the whole of my identity or that of anyone else who isn’t religious.

Let’s get to the point where we categorize people by humanist, individualist, tribalist, or cultist dipshit and see how they all like being called a-rationals

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